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Prof. T.C McAbe
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and he would adapt how?

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does he have any showings of adapting to an opponent being physically immune to his attacks?


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^^^So no examples, then.
Phasing, stretching, and looking good in a bustier atent what Brit does.

He MIGHT pull off thst last one.


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Hey DS, AKA, TBC, and to not go in what i just realized is, to me, a useless direction, my question isnt 'can DD adapt to Brit'.
Don't know, dont care.
My question is, 'can Brit take the beating DD gave Supes'.


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Hey DS, AKA, TBC, and to not go in what i just realized is, to me, a useless direction, my question isnt 'can DD adapt to Brit'.
Don't know, dont care.
My question is, 'can Brit take the beating DD gave Supes'.


Ok to answer your question you still have to consider the adaptin abilities of DD. In a prolonged fight, like the one against Superman, DD would have time to adapt (coating on his claws that ovecomes invulnerability) and kill Brit. However if you take his adapting out of the equation I would say that Brit would survive the beating. He would just be a punching doll, gets koed but stays alive.

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Ok to answer your question....I would say that Brit would survive the beating. He would just be a punching doll, gets koed but stays alive.

^^^Thats all i'm asking.

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Just realized you're the one that instigated the tangent. Thanks for answering the topic question.


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I think we *can* take spontaneous adaptation off the table, tbh.

Doomsday didn't start adapting on the fly until after the events of DoS. Granted he possessed dynamic strength(he continuously grew stronger as the battle progressed), but I still don't think he could *kill* Brit. Slap him all over the place? Definitely. KO him? Most likely. Kill him, though? Very doubtful, imo.


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I think we *can* take spontaneous adaptation off the table, tbh.

Doomsday didn't start adapting on the fly until after the events of DoS. Granted he possessed dynamic strength(he continuously grew stronger as the battle progressed), but I still don't think he could *kill* Brit. Slap him all over the place? Definitely. KO him? Most likely. Kill him, though? Very doubtful, imo.

The DD who fought the Guardian was pre-DoS DD IIRC and he adapted though not instantly, it took him a while. So I think it would be a valid point.

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I'm talking exclusively about DoS Doomsday -- he never displayed the ability to adapt on the fly. Even though we found out in later issues that he *can* insta-adapt, it still doesn't mean he *did* in that specific arc. With this in mind, I see no reason to credit DD with an ability *he* never displayed -- that's akin to giving Professor Hulk the feats of WBH, imo. Now if this were H/P, DD-Wars, or OWAW Doomsday, I would obviously agree with you 100%.


I've mentioned this before, but an in-universe reason why we didn't see DD adapting on the fly during DoS(other than the fact that he would've killed Supes with very little effort) is that he had been buried underground for ~250,000 years; devoid of any sunlight... And since solar energy is Doomsday's primary source of power, I'd imagine that when he first emerged during the DoS arc, he was still very weakened(realitive to himself, of course.) After all, Bertron stated that DD could 'only' store solar energy for "a millennia" if need be, and he was buried for tenS of thousandS of yearS longer than that -- so it likely would have taken a considerable amount of time for his energy reserves to be completely replenished by earth's sunlight. From an in-universe POV, I think it's logical to assume this is why he wasn't pulling abilities out of his ass... Although, that *could* very well be why he kept getting more and more powerful as the arc progressed -- he was continuously absorbing sunlight/recharging the entire time.

...Just my 2 cents. wink


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And a good 2 cents it is, thank you.

Like i said, i dont care about the adapting, its not what i'm adking about.


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The answer to your question is definitely 'yes, Brit takes the beating handed out to Superman in DoS and survives it.'

People are having difficulty letting go of the Superman/invulnerability thing, as though "invulnerability" was/is the thing that defined Superman. Doomsday broke Superman's 'invulnerability', ergo Doomsday MUST be able to break another character with incredible invulnerability ie Brit.

But the thing is, invulnerability IS Brit's thing. Superman is about way more than just invulnerability. I wouldn't even say that if you randomly surveyed 100 people and said 'name one of Superman's main powers', that too many people would pick 'he's invulnerable.'

Invulnerability is ALL Brit does, and he does it as well as any other character in comics. Sure he has been knocked out, but I don't remember any times where he was pierced, cut, bruised or otherwise damaged from any sort of physical or energy-based attack. And as much as I love Doomsday and think he is totally badass, I don't see him putting a scratch on Brit in the DOS scenario, even if he does knock him out.

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The answer to your question is definitely 'yes, Brit takes the beating handed out to Superman in DoS and survives it.'

People are having difficulty letting go of the Superman/invulnerability thing, as though "invulnerability" was/is the thing that defined Superman. Doomsday broke Superman's 'invulnerability', ergo Doomsday MUST be able to break another character with incredible invulnerability ie Brit.

But the thing is, invulnerability IS Brit's thing. Superman is about way more than just invulnerability. I wouldn't even say that if you randomly surveyed 100 people and said 'name one of Superman's main powers', that too many people would pick 'he's invulnerable.'

Invulnerability is ALL Brit does, and he does it as well as any other character in comics. Sure he has been knocked out, but I don't remember any times where he was pierced, cut, bruised or otherwise damaged from any sort of physical or energy-based attack. And as much as I love Doomsday and think he is totally badass, I don't see him putting a scratch on Brit in the DOS scenario, even if he does knock him out.



By that logic, Thing is stronger than Superman or Quicksilver is faster than Superman.

Brit could have greater durability, I'm still waiting to see feats(only read some of his appearances, all early ones), but that's faulty logic.


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I think you're taking his analogy a bit literally.
It obviously doesnt apply to every character. And every power.


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I think you're taking his analogy a bit literally.
It obviously doesnt apply to every character. And every power.


Then what do you think he meant here?

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Invulnerability is ALL Brit does, and he does it as well as any other character in comics. Sure he has been knocked out, but I don't remember any times where he was pierced, cut, bruised or otherwise damaged from any sort of physical or energy-based attack. And as much as I love Doomsday and think he is totally badass, I don't see him putting a scratch on Brit in the DOS scenario, even if he does knock him out.


Seems like arguing Brit is more durable because invulnerability is all he has to me, when he brings up that's all he has then says even if DD gets the KO, he won't scratch Brit.


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He was just making a point.


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I'm talking exclusively about DoS Doomsday -- he never displayed the ability to adapt on the fly. Even though we found out in later issues that he *can* insta-adapt, it still doesn't mean he *did* in that specific arc. With this in mind, I see no reason to credit DD with an ability *he* never displayed -- that's akin to giving Professor Hulk the feats of WBH, imo. Now if this were H/P, DD-Wars, or OWAW Doomsday, I would obviously agree with you 100%.


I've mentioned this before, but an in-universe reason why we didn't see DD adapting on the fly during DoS(other than the fact that he would've killed Supes with very little effort) is that he had been buried underground for ~250,000 years; devoid of any sunlight... And since solar energy is Doomsday's primary source of power, I'd imagine that when he first emerged during the DoS arc, he was still very weakened(realitive to himself, of course.) After all, Bertron stated that DD could 'only' store solar energy for "a millennia" if need be, and he was buried for tenS of thousandS of yearS longer than that -- so it likely would have taken a considerable amount of time for his energy reserves to be completely replenished by earth's sunlight. From an in-universe POV, I think it's logical to assume this is why he wasn't pulling abilities out of his ass... Although, that *could* very well be why he kept getting more and more powerful as the arc progressed -- he was continuously absorbing sunlight/recharging the entire time.

...Just my 2 cents. wink

Better watch out, people seemed to take great offence when I first pointed out him being deprived of solar energy for thousands of years and therefor logically weaker in DOS than he was in the GL one shot a while back lol


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Better watch out, people seemed to take great offence when I first pointed out him being deprived of solar energy for thousands of years and therefor logically weaker in DOS than he was in the GL one shot a while back lol


Actually, people were addressing the point you were trying to make,that DD was Kryptonian.


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Actually, people were addressing the point you were trying to make,that DD was Kryptonian.

No I acknowledged that he wasn't once someone(I think it was you) posted some scans showing that he wasn't. That was like halfway through the discussion. After that I was just pointing out that he was still a solar power being.

See, from our convo after you posted the stuff...

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His being a solar powered being doesn't necessarily have to come from his being Kryptonian though. It's established on panel independantly from his place of origin. I just interpreted it as him basically being Kryptonian because it was the most obvious explanation.


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Pretty much. That was towards the end of the thread. The rest of the thread was you saying that he grew bony portrusions the more he was exposed to sunlight.

Nobody argued that he didn't get sustenance from the sun. We all acknowledged it.


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