So he had help. It's a galaxy. That's like saying Cap helped Superman lift an infinite book.
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Considering he matched almost every hero on the planet in strength including Gamma Hulk, his strength is pretty high.
But it's about 50 percent of the power required to slow Exitar down who was slowly descending. Imagine if he were actually flying into the planet head first or throwing a punch...
So basically, based on one showing Sentry is about as strong as every hero on Earth but a complete peon in comparison to Exitar. Quite a wide gap. That's just in raw strength too.
how do you know which % was needed from each of them to stop the galaxy? maybe titano was doing 99% of the job? do you know the strength meassurements between those 2?
Rogue was slowing Exitar by herself though. And she was literally said to be half of the equation. If someone is slowing something by themselves, and someone else comes along to stop it, the second person did not in any way do all the work. That's the whole point of needing help.
You think all of Exitar's might is him descending really slowly? That'd be like saying everytime someone flies at someone they are using all their might. Exitar should have just descended onto The One instead of charging up a blast to kill him.
What it portrayed was an attack meant to destroy the planet and show how far above them he was. What would have happened if Exitar was flying at high speeds at them? If he started stamping around like a bull?
Thor saying he'd use his energies to feed a dying star does not make that his limit. Especially when a couple pages later Kang calls it the greatest power source in all existence.
All Hulk did was hold a machine together which held off Exitar. Hulk supplied zero power to the machine. He just allowed it to function. He was duct tape if you will. Which is all he should ever be. Hulk is the duct tape of the Marvel Universe.
Maybe. Though that could be explained that he was holding back since everything was fairly non chalant with Thor. Against Exitar he actually strained himself hard.
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She did not. Exitar was sinking down and there was no mention of Rogue slowing him down.
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Initially she was everything they had.
Sentry came as a back-up plan only because Wasp convinced her. It doesn't mean that Rogue and Sentry are equal in power neither.
Which Rogue didn't.
Rogue needed help because she couldn't do anything at all.
Sentry did all the job.
Hey, you are strawmaning here.
The point is that Sentry was capable to oppose his own physical strength to Exitar and stop him.
Rogue's efforts weren't even noticeable by Exitar. She was an insect to him.
Exitar didn't crushed the planet with his bare hands. He had to land on it first in that precise scene, which didn't happen because his descent was stopped and Thor cleaved his face with his magical axe.
Because Exitar was sinking down fairly fast and seemed to get really close to the buildings by the time Rogue got there. Assuming she did nothing at all, he probably should have hit way before Sentry landed.
But anyway, the only indication we have on this is Rogue was only half. Split half between 2 feet and it seems obvious the intent was 50/50.
Here's an easy real world example, go watch any video of someone bench pressing with a spotter. They fail hard on the first rep, but the spotter helps lift it up like nothing. A little help can help you accomplish a task easily. My brother used to get his tiny girlfriend to help him spot well over 3 plates.
If the intention were for Sentry to stop it alone he would have had Rogue bail out.
What is the strawman there?
A Celestial descending slowly is not the full might of a Celestial. It was just enough to crush Earth. No where in comics ever has descending ever been the full might of a character.
How am I supposed to answer this directly when there is zero proof at all that it was the absolute extent of his power? The most powerful being in the universe uses his full power to destroy a planet? Where is the scan?
Full of shit maybe, but there's a large contrast between solar energy and the most powerful energy source in existence. One statement from Thor does not override the entire purpose of the story or Kang's plan.
That's because Kang didn't absorb the full energy. Though not sure what them beating him with the energy has to do with anything.
It was exactly how it was portrayed. Hulk was the only one strong enough to hold the ends together. But he contributed no power to the actual machine unless I'm glancing over something since I don't feel the need to reread the scene.
If Hulk did not power the machine, then how much did he do?
He two shotted Thor though. And Thor was laying on the ground until the Worm came (Exitar strength Sentry).
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That's correct.
Hulk only contributed in maintaining the EM-anchors of the machine in place.
He wasn't a power-source for the machine, nor interacted with Exitar at all.
Considering that Rogue with the power of every heroes on the planet including Hulk failed at even slowing down Exitar's descent, there is literally no chances for Hulk to do anything to Exitar on his own.
Why would you use an example not applicable to the situation to highlight bad examples?
I used something where two people can accomplish something one cannot, and they can make it look easy. You used something impossible.
I know you're trying to say Rogue was human level while Sentry is hydraulic press level, but it's blatantly false, and doesn't work with the example. Not only that, but if we apply the comparison, then Exitar again would have likely just destroyed the planet easily in the time Sentry got there.
Yes. You're ignoring the question though and dancing around it. Where in all of fiction was a character shown to have their entire power contained within a descent? Where in the comic did it portray Exitar as using his entire power? Where is your proof?
Are you saying that after Exitar descends into the planet, that he has to exert more power into his limbs to destroy the planet? Which means descending was not his actual max?
Basically we have Cap already knowing the plan to some degree and saying Rogue was only half, and we also have the summary of the last issue saying Sentry AND Rogue TOGETHER stopped his descent.
Even if we didn't have this, the purpose of the story was for Kang to steal the power. A little pointless when a controllable flunkie like Sentry was as powerful as Exitar according to you. It is clearly not the intention.
Right, nothing I said applies, but everything you did does. Do I need to actually reply to this? If you're going to ignore the very real application of an additional person making previously impossible feat look easy, then we don't need to delve into the specifics.
Here's a very real world test for you:
Go load up a weight on bench that you know will pin it to your chest. Go ask literally anyone in the gym to spot you. The spotter helped you get it off your chest easily while doing very little actual work. Because that is how things work. Help makes things look easy. Otherwise it mitigates help entirely, and we can just apply every feat to one sole person no matter who jumps in.
Also, it never said she had no effect, it said he was still sinking down. Their goal wasn't to slow him from 5mph to 3 for example, it was to stop him.
See, she wasn't useless because the comics you literally took the feat from said she was half of the equation, and her and Sentry together did the feat.
Here's an extreme example and also hilarious.This idiot tries to lift a weight he can't even budge.The spotters come in and have to pick it off him. Naturally it is all the spotters who move it right (it very well might be actually)
Except he was pushing the entire time and as we saw previously, he could bench albiet awfully 405 pounds for reps.
Which means he was more likely than not pushing at least half that weight up even with 3 people on a weight he couldn't even budge. Because that's how things work in real life and in every single case in comics except apparently Sentry when you get half. If someone comes along to give you that extra push, you can make things look easy.
10 Carvers could (hopefully) easily lift Eddie Halls max deadlift off thr ground when 5 Carvers couldn't even roll the thing.
What else do we have? Oh right, you are dancing around the question. Where is your proof that Exitar exerted his max power? Where is your proof that Exitar put literally 100 percent of his power into moving his feet downwards? ESPECIALLY when you are adamant in the fact that Exitar then uses his hands to crush the planet, which implies he needs more power than simply descending to do it?
Like I said, it'd be like assuming everytime a guy flies in every direction that he is using max power. Sentry got slowed or halted by Iron Man's rocket boots. I believe Wendihulk sniped him out of flight. Naturally these are ignored or called a "straw man" since you can't actually use the comics against you since you ignore the proof.
As for why Exitar didn't do more? Maybe it's because my entire assertion is that no one in comics has ever concentrated their entire strength into moving their feet downwards? Maybe it's because Thor killed him immediately after they stopped him before he could do anything?
They said half. And half the plan of a plan that involves strength needed to stop something very strongly implies half the power too even if you twist it that way.
When the only thing we have to explain the involvement is "half", that doesn't mean 100 percent.
Details which said Sentry was half of the plan though. That's what we saw.
And the summary said both of them did the feat, not one or the other like what you're saying. Both of them did it. Both of them were needed. Each were half the plan. Even if Rogue was 10 percent for whatever retarded reason, Sentry still did not match Exitar in pure strength.
But Sentry and Rogue joined together and each were half the plan. That is the details. That is all we were given. It cannot be twisted to give full props to Sentry. Nothing supports that.
It wasn't about killing the Celestial, though you bringing up him being a pawn while the whole feat is him going against them...
It is about why would Kang go through the trouble of taking down Exitar when he could have goaded Sentry to his side? Why was Sentry's power literally never said to be in any comparison to a Celestial in that arc? It seems a little odd to negate when he was apparently as powerful as Exitar. Why was Exitar still said to be the most powerful energy source in existence? Why was Kang now the most powerful being in the universe (paraphrasing) with only a little power when Sentry was merely aý Exitar's feat and we saw him apply himself? Why was it up to Havok and Sunfire to save the universe when Sentry apparently had 100 percent of Exitar's power?
Why was there no statements? Why is there no proof? Why would Sentry being as powerful even be close to the intention here?
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