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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
If the writer himself states so then yes, but as mirrored in real life, people debate who could've beaten who in a boxing match had they fought or who was the all time greatest athlete in their prospective sports, same with superheroes.
Ok, well, Hickman, the one who brought this version of Hyperion into existence said that Hulk is stronger than him. He also said that Hulk is the strongest Avenger.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:32 PM
lawest9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
You're the one that said Hulk base cant lift something, so I need you to provide something explaining or showing this before I page dump scans on you showing you the opposite. So, what's the max Hulk can lift at base (does he even have a base)?
Feel free to dump all the scans that you will and lets see what it proves.
Apr 2nd, 2018 08:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Ok, well, Hickman, the one who brought this version of Hyperion into existence said that Hulk is stronger than him. He also said that Hulk is the strongest Avenger.
And he may well be, but not stronger than AS Dupes however.
Apr 2nd, 2018 08:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
Feel free to dump all the scans that you will and lets see what it proves.
Before I scan dump, I'm asking you, what level is his base?
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:38 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Before I scan dump, I'm asking you, what level is his base?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Hulk base level is High Herald.
There you go.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:44 PM
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Carver, I know you're just itching to scan vomit all over this thread.
Just remember, per your own words, base Hulk is HH. Post whatever writer interviews you want, scans, fanart, it doesn't matter.
You have already answered your own question.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:48 PM
lawest9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Before I scan dump, I'm asking you, what level is his base?
His base level is high herald but does it still equal Supermans?
Apr 2nd, 2018 08:52 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
His base level is high herald but does it still equal Supermans?
Prob not All-Star, who was explicitly meant to be above 'normal' Supes....
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, I know you're just itching to scan vomit all over this thread.
Just remember, per your own words, base Hulk is HH. Post whatever writer interviews you want, scans, fanart, it doesn't matter.
You have already answered your own question.
I'm good with that answer. That's what I was going to say from the start. Dark, youre always on point. I don't know if you save my posts or what, but I have to watch what I say around you.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
His base level is high herald but does it still equal Supermans?
Don't see High Heralds randomly punching objects that towers continents across space with a single hit. Do you? Also, Grey Hulk pales in comparison to his green counterpart and he tossed a pyramid as if it was a baseball. That would be a high showing for Captain Marvel and Black Adam and Hulk at his weakest achieved this.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 08:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Prob not All-Star, who was explicitly meant to be above 'normal' Supes....
And "normal" Superman again bench pressed the weight of the earth for several days without life giving sunlight. Thank you.
Apr 2nd, 2018 08:59 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
And "normal" Superman again bench pressed the weight of the earth for several days without life giving sunlight. Thank you.
Ok, I brought up those showings because you're making it appear as if Hulk isn't strong during the onset of his strength. Normal Hulk powered through planetary attacks as if it was nothing. Average Hulk stood up with the weight of a sun on his back. Average Hulk strength nearly overpowered an abstract that was controlling an IG user and the Phoenix Force. Like, is planetary showings the best thing you can throw out?
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Apr 2nd, 2018 09:02 PM
lawest9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Don't see High Heralds randomly punching objects that towers continents across space with a single hit. Do you? Also, Grey Hulk pales in comparison to his green counterpart and he tossed a pyramid as if it was a baseball. That would be a high showing for Captain Marvel and Black Adam and Hulk at his weakest achieved this.
Do they blow whole solar systems away with just a sneeze? Tossing a pyramid into space is still not like the bench pressing earth feat or even towing 1/3 of the earth.
Apr 2nd, 2018 09:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Don't see High Heralds randomly punching objects that towers continents across space with a single hit. Do you? Also, Grey Hulk pales in comparison to his green counterpart and he tossed a pyramid as if it was a baseball. That would be a high showing for Captain Marvel and Black Adam and Hulk at his weakest achieved this.
Erm, a high showing for Black Adam is hitting harder than the asteroid that killed Bada's people:
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That's an asteroid 6 miles in diameter.
THAT's a high showing. Pyramid tossing is...meh.
Oh, I'm sure you will just jump back in and start posting scans to say 'well, Hulk also does this! And this! And this!'
But my point here is.....that pyramid tossing is NOT a high showing for BA.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 09:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
Do they blow whole solar systems away with just a sneeze? Tossing a pyramid into space is still not like the bench pressing earth feat or even towing 1/3 of the earth.
So now you're bringing up Pre Crisis Superman. Stay on track.
I'm not even talking about the Pyramid anymore because you're debating style is confusing me. Can you stay on track please.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 09:05 PM
lawest9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I brought up those showings because you're making it appear as if Hulk isn't strong during the onset of his strength. Normal Hulk powered through planetary attacks as if it was nothing. Average Hulk stood up with the weight of a sun on his back. Average Hulk strength nearly overpowered an abstract that was controlling an IG user and the Phoenix Force. Like, is planetary showings the best thing you can throw out?
I think you're cherry picking your own feats and exaggerating them.
Apr 2nd, 2018 09:05 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm, a high showing for Black Adam is hitting harder than the asteroid that killed Bada's people:
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That's an asteroid 6 miles in diameter.
THAT's a high showing. Pyramid tossing is...meh.
Oh, I'm sure you will just jump back in and start posting scans to say 'well, Hulk also does this! And this! And this!'
But my point here is.....that pyramid tossing is NOT a high showing for BA.
Forgot about this showing. Good find.
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Apr 2nd, 2018 09:06 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
I think you're cherry picking your own feats and exaggerating them.
Which ft am I exaggerating?
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Apr 2nd, 2018 09:07 PM
lawest9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
So now you're bringing up Pre Crisis Superman. Stay on track.
I'm not even talking about the Pyramid anymore because you're debating style is confusing me. Can you stay on track please.
Only if you do the same, so it's all so well for you to quote different versions of Hulk but I can't quote different version of Superman, right?
Apr 2nd, 2018 09:07 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by lawest9
Only if you do the same, so it's all so well for you to quote different versions of Hulk but I can't quote different version of Superman, right?
Ok, I can post this version of Hulk then. This version of Hulk stood in one spot and tanked hits from Hercules (who hurt his hand punching Hulk) and Jane Thor. In regards to this, Hercules IS elite in strength and Jane has taken on and defeated Mangog (while punching his teeth out) and Mangog was said to be more powerful than even the Phoenix force. And again, she couldn't budge Hulk. Hell, Hulk brushed her and Herc off just by flexing his muscles.
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