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abhilegend
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Wonderman and Vision only survived because they were in the dead center of the bomb when it went off, creating a vacuum at the center of it (like some lucky Hiroshima survivors when America dropped an A bomb on the city). Vision explains it here :
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Another Wonder Man myth (first one being Hydrobase 'lifting feat') busted.

Captain America survived it on Hala (center of the bomb) because it was only radiation which killed the kree. It wasn't an explosion.

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What were the details of the Hyrobase feat being busted?

I missed that.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Wonderman and Vision only survived because they were in the dead center of the bomb when it went off, creating a vacuum at the center of it (like some lucky Hiroshima survivors when America dropped an A bomb on the city). Vision explains it here :
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Another Wonder Man myth (first one being Hydrobase 'lifting feat') busted.

Vision turned intangible and Wonderman absorbed the energy hence the changes to him afterwards or are you saying that the energy from the Negabomb was not absorbed and did not change his powers Zop Zop.

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Captain America survived it on Hala (center of the bomb) because it was only radiation which killed the kree. It wasn't an explosion.

Dear God, you could be right. Even Deathbird survived it. I knew she was there but I misremember the incident as her arriving there after the bomb exploded not during the event. But I was wrong, she was there when the bomb went off :
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What a non feat for poor Wonder Man! laughing

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What were the details of the Hyrobase feat being busted?

I missed that.

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He is completely wrong. And looking back it's even WORSE than what I expected. It was Sue that stepped in first to balance the island :
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But she was straining because the column kept crumbling, then Simon steps in to help :
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Then Sue steps it up again and shields the column in her force field in a way Reed suggested. The pillar was taking the majority of the weight, which is why Reed wanted it to crumble.

As it continues to crumble, Simon is GONE. It's the Pillar and Sue that are doing all the work :
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Simon was only balancing it for the briefest of moments! LOL.

Now compare this to Namor balancing Utopia while the mutants setup the pylons.

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What were the details of the Hyrobase feat being busted?

I missed that.

He didn't bust them really, he just showed the full sequence where the base is balanced by Wonderman and the invisible woman. Which is what happened. However Zop Zop wants to low ball it.

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Vision turned intangible and Wonderman absorbed the energy hence the changes to him afterwards or are you saying that the energy from the Negabomb was not absorbed and did not change his powers Zop Zop.

The point is they only survived because they were in the vacuum created when the bomb went off. It's pointless anyway because even non CL100 bricks survived the explosion : Captain America and Deathbird being two of them. laughing

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He didn't bust them really, he just showed the full sequence where the base is balanced by Wonderman and the invisible woman. Which is what happened. However Zop Zop wants to low ball it.

He "balanced" it for 'a brief moment' according to Reed himself. It was the Pillar of lava men and Sue that did all the work.

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2 Questions Zop Zop has Namors fist ever knocked out Wonderman? Has Wondermans fist ever knocked out Namor?

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2 Questions Zop Zop has Namors fist ever knocked out Wonderman? Has Wondermans fist ever knocked out Namor?

A Dying Namor hit Wonder Man so hard that he was out of the picture long enough for DYING Namor to fight Whizzer and have an entire conversation with him. Simon recovers and then sucker attacks a DYING Namor.

A young Namor tooled Simon and Ares at the same time!

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poor simon.

his best feat is ever is probably still choking out rulk.

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A Dying Namor hit Wonder Man so hard that he was out of the picture long enough for DYING Namor to fight Whizzer and have an entire conversation with him. Simon recovers and then sucker attacks a DYING Namor.

A young Namor tooled Simon and Ares at the same time!

Not what I asked, on panel has Simon knocked Namor clearly out cold and has Namor knocked Simon clearly out cold?

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Not what I asked, on panel has Simon knocked Namor clearly out cold and has Namor knocked Simon clearly out cold?

That's like saying I knocked out a man dying of stage 4 cancer. Not really impressive is it?

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Jun 2nd, 2018 02:07 PM

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Wonderman held that press back for a brief moment that was pushing with 50,000 tons of force iirc.

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That's like saying I knocked out a man dying of stage 4 cancer. Not really impressive is it?

So we'll take that as yes, Simon knocked out Namor on panel and no Namor has never knocked Simon out on panel but I don't like it.

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