Torture the hell out of him for 'challenging' his power?
*I'm not saying that Palpatine couldn't have still owned Dooku even if he was actively defending himself, btw. Just saying that I don't think Dooku was doing so in that moment.
To be fair in regards to this discussion Dooku didn't know he was essential. Palpatine always made sure his pawns knew or at least felt they could easily be replaced.
I mean, Palpatine went on a vacation to Mandalore just to personally handle Maul/Savage when he believed they were rivals(and Dooku > either of them.) So I don't think it would be completely ooc for him to travel to Serenno if Dooku had been purposefully trying to undermine his power during that 'lesson'. /shrug
As mentioned, we obviously know that RotS Palpatine >> RotS Dooku. I just don't think Dooku was actively trying to fight against/resist his Master in that particular instance.
I think it can be argued. I honestly just think Palpatine could likey do that to Dooku in person, but it'd open him up to severe punishment if he's dueling someone else. I also think TCW vision reflects pretty well what would happen if ROTS Sidious fought with ROTS Anakin. It has Anakin defeating Dooku in ~30 seconds (which I think is realistic if Rex just got killed in front of his eyes), then getting totally trounced by Sidious.
Vader was trying to defend against Palpatine's lightning initially(Palpatine even commented on it): https://i.ibb.co/Dt83hy3/Star-Wars-...020-006-002.jpg
It's just that Palpatine's lightning has evidently evolved to the point where it can no longer be blocked with a lightsaber.
But after Vader's saber was stripped from him, there was really nothing he could do but get raped.
The art leaves it somewhat ambiguous, but imo, Palpatine's lightning was initially striking Vader's saber, then just started bypassing it entirely...
First panel- the lightning hits Vader's saber and starts crawling into his hands: (please log in to view the image)
*Palpatine even comments on Vader actively defending himself.
Second Panel- the lightning starts crawling up Vader's arms: (please log in to view the image)
Third panel- the lightning is up to Vader's shoulders: (please log in to view the image)
Fourth panel- Palpatine stops the barrage and Vader's entire body is smoking: (please log in to view the image)
He did defend instinctly of course, but still Vader just didn't try or had intention of fighting back. He just didn't. Palpatine should win in any case, but what happened in this issue just wasn't that relevant. Vader just wasn't trying.
And it seems Vader suits just makes him vulnerable to lighting, that is still the case with his suit.
When Vader comes with full intention and determination to put Palpatine down, that will be serious. Problem with Vader was that he never found a real reason to rebel, it was like he never cared... when Luke came he was also constantly fighting within himself.
And the whole point of issue is that Vader is somehow losing it and Palpatine wants to bring him back to embrace dark side fully and to return him to his form or even stronger. Vader head was confused to the core and Palpatine knew it.
It was always somehow in the air that Palpatine was stronger than Vader, but Vader had far greater depth in power and connection to the force, which was never fully embraced. That was always in the air.
So i think we won't see Vader threating Palpatine power wise.
Last edited by Inedian on Oct 31st, 2020 at 03:52 PM
I honestly don't think lightning is akin to Vader Kryptonite at all.
Vader still managed to walk all the way up the stairwell towards Palpatine, despite getting raped by lightning the entire time -- and even after that, he continued fighting.
Of course not. Palpatine has always kept the power advantage over Vader.
Of the many, many, many legitimate criticisms to make about the sequels, this isn't one of them honestly.
The movie, the movie's two novelizations, multiple entries in the StarWars.com databank, and finally the recently-released canon reference guide called the Star Wars Book all repeatedly reaffirm that Rey was (1) amped by the power of all past Jedi and (2) killed by the effort needed to deflect the Emperor's power, despite that amp.
Yes, but it was still Anakin sword and expansion of Anakin sword because of duo in the force or something. It makes me sick even remembering Episode IX.
Oct 19th, 2020 12:02 PM
