The thing about the Shadowdragon showing is that Superman wasnt going all out. He's not trying to smash and destroy regular humans.
He was impressed that he was able to dodge when he thought ' I doubled my speed'. But then thought, I'll just grab his tassel, and immediately did so, but it was a break away part of his suit that produced a flashbang and he ran while Superman was momentarily stunned.
We also have the fact that story was post-DOS, so it doesn't apply here.
Theres still a big difference between this and the Deathstroke showing, and Spidey smashing Firelord. They were both running from Supes.
But even SpideyvsFirelord shouldn't be used as any sort of benchmark here.
This is all just a waste of time.
Superman still beats Firelord.
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You should keep other threads out of this thread and stay on topic. If you don't believe in something, don't post it. This is trolling and you are a clinger. You cling to things and don't know how to move on. If you didn't believe in the Firelord vs Spiderman fight, then don't say it. Carebear.
You didn't answer my question, so I guess I'll go first. All showings count, lows, mid and highs. You find a medium with all of those showings. I don't exclude mediums and lows and focus primarily on highs, that is ridiculous. Wolverine would be Nuke withstanding levels. Spiderman would be UN durability withstanding levels. Hulk would be Abstract. Batman would be Batman. Gather their showings, find a medium and debate.
Now again, in YOUR opinion (no ifs) can Spiderman beat Firelord. This is your opinion. Pretend someone made a thread and youre the first to post in it on who you think would win. Who are you voting for?
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Last edited by carver9 on Aug 12th, 2021 at 06:31 AM
Let's nip this in the bud. This all started because you wanted to mention speed. Ya know, speed is your go to when discussing characters because we know, you want this to be the ace in the hole for Superman threads. Well, the rules even disagrees with you. It outright states that Hulk WILL hit Superman (and yes, this applies to Firelord as well).
There's an important piece there. We don't debate power set, we debate the character. Seems pretty simple to me. Yes, go to the mods and ask them to change this. This is another thing to add to your list but per forum rules, lol, Hulk WILL slap the HELL out of Superman. Thor will hit him, Firelord, heck, let's throw Juggernaut up in there. What's the worst thing that anyone wants? A Hulk punching them in the face.
Back to the thread. Firelord immediately feels the energy generating off of Superman and take advantage of it.