Isn't h1 the guy who said strength doesn't even matter in a fight?
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Street levelers who can't even lift a ton, fight characters who lift tons all the time.
Danny and Cage are a really good example of how lifting strength doesn't mean everything, as Danny can match or exceed Cages punching power even without using the Iron Fist.
But this is less true with greater gaps in strength, imo.. A class 100 will always hit harder then the best street... Validus and (Classic) Mangog will always outpunch a class 100, because of their over the top strength levels.
Unless you're Val Armorr or Mantis, at least.
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ma uses pressure points. Danny cant hit
as hard as Cage without using IF.
Also strenght proves the minimum in which you can strike with. They are correlated very closely if not equal. If you can lift a ton then you can punch with at least a ton. Ma can hit harder than their lifting strenght due to pressure points and technique
Danny's always amped up on chi, though. Even without the Iron Fist, he hits hard enough to break through plate steel..
Drawing blood from Cage without an IF is pretty much straight blunt trauma, and not pressure point magic...
And Danny's performed about as well as Cage, or better, against the same opponents without using an IF. Staggering Iron Man with unamped punches, knocking super robots back that Cage couldn't even budge, and knocking out Man Mountain Marco with a single strike to the chin, where Cage usually needed multiple blows..
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Not when the fighters are in the same order of magnitude of each other in strength. What matters most is skill, speed, and unique power set and fighting style.
Slugfests are only for slow bricks.
Prove your case. I don't believe you. Prove that Danny hits harder than Cage unamped. I want the scans, issue numbers, etc.
At least that isn't as bad as giving a character a certain degree of strength without them having to show it.
Odin hasn't any feats beyond what Superman has shown strength wise. Prime is a lot stronger than Superman and should spite stomp Odin in the strength category.
I would put Prime close to WBH and I would put WBH far above the likes of Zeus who couldn't manage to kill an astronomically weaker Hulk in a few hits.
Odin swats around high heralds like toddlers. Cling to handbooks all you want "being created to be class 75"
You can`t disprove PC supes struggles with lifting an average american woman. PC supes >>>>> any other supes, therefore Odin wins. yeah! (using h1 patented locic)
Odin has high herald level strength (mid to high class 100). Heralds weigh less than a ton, which is next to nothing to a class 100 being. Superman casually pimp smacked WW a mile away. This my friend, is even less than a toddler. So again, you have no point.
Right, the guy who doesn't read comics is calling out people to
post proof now. Like I've never backed up my claims before.
Congratulations, h1, you just burned another bridge.
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I'm claiming that I don't believe your claim that Danny hits harder than Cage UNAMPED. Any knowledgeable member here would not only disagree with you but they would say you don't read comics. Danny can't even effect Hulk with an amped punch.
I never implied that you don't ATTEMPT to back up your claims. I never implied that you are lying. I'm basically saying I don't believe you until I see proof.
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Sep 22nd, 2013 03:27 AM
Pff even PC Supes struggled with lifting Lois when she was fat, Odin beats him flat like a pancake with his little finger.
