Dan Wallace considering coming to KMC:

Simple Janus: Because IKC won't drop it.

And IKC, it's been clarified that applied to five thousand years before Sidious was even born. Also, I have Dan on IM right now, I'll keep you guys posted

Who's Dan Wallace?

Hi guys,

First, thanks to Lightsnake for the invite. I wanted to clear up the "Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord in history" line I put into the NEC. Here's the facts on the issue:

1) Yes, I wrote that line, and in my opinion Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived. In my opinion he could beat Marka Ragnos in a fight.

2) It doesn't really matter what my opinion is. Lucasfilm approves all canon, not me, and there's plenty of wiggle-room in my statement where you can go one way or another. For example, if Lucasfilm later publishes a story in which Marka Ragnos's ghost kicks the ass of Palpatine ghost, I'd happily accept one of the following explanations:

a) As it turns out, Palpatine was only the "most powerful" when it came to political maneuvering, not ghost-ass-kicking

b) As it turns out, the in-universe author of the NEC (Voren Na'al, if you're a geek like me) was injecting a bit of bias into his text when he came up with that whole "most powerful" line

c) The "Any Given Sunday" rule.

I don't think Lucasfilm is ever going to publish "power charts" or something like that indicating who could beat who, because such things are dependent on the rules of story. It's like arguing who would win -- Batman or Superman? I could happily argue that point all day long (the answer is Superman, by the way), but it's just imaginary arguing. There's no right answer, because the winner in any matchup between the two characters will always be determined by the writer of that story.

Dan

Supes would destroy Batman, I agree there.

Well, we can kinda compare ghost ass kicking skills.

Here he's so powerful he made both Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh search for their contact lenses.

thx Dan that was the aswer every1 was waiting for 🙂

lol

I wouldn't say 'powerful'...'revered' is another story. Kressh's devotion was just scary while Naga just did it for show

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I wouldn't say 'powerful'...'revered' is another story. Kressh's devotion was just scary while Naga just did it for show

Really, I don't see Naga Sadow back talking Ragnos in this case. Certainly, he isn't ignoring the spectre. And Kressh seems to think that Ragnos could crush Sadow if he would. A spectre literally destroy someone on Sadow's level.

Kressh is a sycophant and Naga's certainly being pretty fresh with Ragnos...I wouldn't think Ragnos would allow Naga to back talk him life that or get away with ruining the empire...or say things like "It takes more than the pronouncement of a ghost etc etc."

Yeah, I guess Sadow and Ludo bowed before a ghost that had no power over them at all.

And this is amusing, considering that with just one of Sadow's amulets, an inexperienced Exar Kun could destroy Freedan Nadd's ghost, but two sith lords couldn't hope to do the same to Ragnos.

But I'm sure if this was Sidious and not Ragnos, you'd be agreeing with me. Let's face it, Lightsnake- you have a love for Sidious that won't quit.

Right then, folks, that sorts that out. Nothing is 100% nailed down, so it all down to opinion. No-one can actually claim to be definitvely correct when it comes to EU continuity, instead people can only have reached a conclusion based on factors which are open to interpretation.

Thanks, Dan.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Yeah, I guess Sadow and Ludo bowed before a ghost that had no power over them at all.

And this is amusing, considering that with just one of Sadow's amulets, an inexperienced Exar Kun could destroy Freedan Nadd's ghost, but two sith lords couldn't hope to do the same to Ragnos.

But I'm sure if this was Sidious and not Ragnos, you'd be agreeing with me. Let's face it, Lightsnake- you have a love for Sidious that won't quit.

Because Nadd was a member of the Ancient Sith and why Ragnos's ghost was capable of destroying Jaden Korr...once more, Naga's giving Ragnos a lot of lip and going against his direct orders.

These are points better argued in other threads.

Thanks for clarifying Dan, glad to see that you've come and sorted out the babble.

I don't think Lucasfilm is ever going to publish "power charts" or something like that indicating who could beat who, because such things are dependent on the rules of story. It's like arguing who would win -- Batman or Superman? I could happily argue that point all day long (the answer is Superman, by the way), but it's just imaginary arguing. There's no right answer, because the winner in any matchup between the two characters will always be determined by the writer of that story.

Honestly, I don't think this is a good example. Without plot-induced stupidity, I can't see Batman beating Superman, especially if he doesn't walk around with Kryptonite 😉.

So basically you're saying the entire issue has room for interpretation, and there is one one way to the matter, correct? I personally like this view better, as I don't feel single lines in narration without any logical support or on-panel evidence should be binding.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Thanks for clarifying Dan, glad to see that you've come and sorted out the babble.

Honestly, I don't think this is a good example. Without plot-induced stupidity, I can't see Batman beating Superman, especially if he doesn't walk around with Kryptonite 😉.

So basically you're saying the entire issue has room for interpretation, and there is one one way to the matter, correct? I personally like this view better, as I don't feel single lines in narration without any logical support or on-panel evidence should be binding.

Agreed. Also Batman is ALWAYS prepared....that damn utility belt

Too many Batman PIS nowadays. We have his "super brain" inventing cheap ways to take down cosmic beings... I think it's ridiculous. Hell, one time Batman made a freaking portal to a planet with a Red Sun, lured Superman there, and kicked his ass.

The hell? What happened to Batman detecting a good murder mystery... or bringing down a Mafia chain in Gotham.

Fanboys. They're the reason why Wolverine could beat Galactus.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Fanboys. They're the reason why Wolverine could beat Galactus.

Quoted for ******* truth

Originally posted by Illustrious
Honestly, I don't think this is a good example. Without plot-induced stupidity, I can't see Batman beating Superman, especially if he doesn't walk around with Kryptonite 😉

Dan

Thanks Dan, things make sense now 😛