Not sure what you are asking. Yes, Yuga is a Promethean Giant. A member of a race can be less powerful than the "average" member of said race.
"Eternity >= Kismet?" What is the sign is between the two...?
Sure, Thanos defeated them. You admitted your unfamiliarity with DC Comics in general - does that extend to Superman Prime? Superman Prime with the Sword of Truth rampaged through Heaven and Hell. Only Michael stopped him. Michael is ~the 14th most powerful being in DC. Superman Prime with the Sword of Truth would chew all on that list and poop them out without knowing he did.
Re: Thanos with THOTU, we are discussing Thanos with The Infinity Gauntlet.
Never Not sure what you are asking. Yes, Yuga is a Promethean Giant. A member of a race can be less powerful than the "average" member of said race.
"Eternity >= Kismet?" What is the sign is between the two...?
Sure, Thanos defeated them. You admitted your unfamiliarity with DC Comics in general - does that extend to Superman Prime? Superman Prime with the Sword of Truth rampaged through Heaven and Hell. Only Michael stopped him. Michael is ~the 14th most powerful being in DC. Superman Prime with the Sword of Truth would chew all on that list and poop them out without knowing he did.
Re: Thanos with THOTU, we are discussing Thanos with The Infinity Gauntlet.
Regarding the battle itself, I do know that it's about Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet and not the Heart. I was addressing both issues actually since some poster were considering how S Prime would do against the Heart, guess I should've stated that Thanos w/ the IG would beat S Prime.
When did S Prime break into Heaven and Hell or even fought Micheal? Can you give some issue numbers so I can look that up? Or maybe provide some scans of this?
If he never did such a thing, Thanos with the Gauntlet would step all over Prime. Can Prime mind read 'cause Thanos with the Gauntlet can (mind gem), or warp reality like provided by the reality gem, or be in more than one part of space such as that power which the space gem offers, or slow down or stop time as the time gem is able to do, or is Prime resistant to soul drain which the soul gem provides, or is the S Prime's power greater than that which is the power gem? If he doesn't have powers or counter-defenses against such powers, what powers does Superman Prime have that could possibly give him a win?
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"If he never did such a thing, Thanos with the Gauntlet would step all over Prime. Can Prime mind read 'cause Thanos with the Gauntlet can (mind gem), or warp reality like provided by the reality gem, or be in more than one part of space such as that power which the space gem offers, or slow down or stop time as the time gem is able to do, or is Prime resistant to soul drain which the soul gem provides, or is the S Prime's power greater than that which is the power gem? If he doesn't have powers or counter-defenses against such powers, what powers does Superman Prime have that could possibly give him a win?"
Our survey says, ding ding ding, "He's gotcha by tha ballsh there mate."
Superman Prime Vs Thanos=Superman Prime wins.
Superman Prime Vs Thanos with Gauntlet= Could go either way I think.
Superman Prime Vs Thanos with T.H.O.T.U= Thanos wins.
Apologies on the Thanos w/THOTU response - I thought you were addressing me.
I will certainly try to dig up the Superman Prime issue numbers.
Hmm, here is a synopsis (still digging for issue numbers though...and whoa now. Found them. muahahaha):
"The fear lasted until one day at the turn of the 700th century AD when a haggard and haunted figure descended out of the skies above the planet Earth. Superman Prime, Kal-El of Krypton, the original Superman had returned to his adopted home. He had been places and dimensions that few had even knew of and even fewer understood. >>>>>He had wrestled with gods and demons. He had overturned hell and fought his way past the gates of Heaven looking for the soul of beloved Lois who due to his immortality he could never join in the afterlife.<<<< A haunted figure as removed from humanity as he had ever been his presence still caused a revolution in human society. To many it was the second coming of a legend from the past creating a spiritual revival and even worship of him from some, but he was beyond such social convention at that time."
Issues?
DC ONE MILLION #1-4, DC ONE MILLION 80-PAGE GIANT & DC1M crossovers.
FIRST APPEARANCE: SUPERMAN PRIME: HISTORICAL: ACTION COMICS #1 (June, 1938); CURRENT: background) SUPERMAN THE MAN OF TOMORROW #1,000,000 (November 1998); (Golden Form) DC ONE MILLION #1 (November 1998)
SUPERMAN SECUNDUS: SUPERMAN MAN OF TOMORROW #1,000,000 (November 1997).
Can Superman Prime read minds? Yes, telepathy entered the Superman bloodline during...blah. Blah, I say. Cannot recall which century.
I see your comments regarding the IG - am very familiar with each gem and its powers. Superman Prime has the Sword of Truth and the Green Lantern ring. Are you familiar with either of them?
Have you read the JLA 1,000,000 crossover with Grant Morrison in which the Justice Legion A appears?
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"The fear lasted until one day at the turn of the 700th century AD when a haggard and haunted figure descended out of the skies above the planet Earth. Superman Prime, Kal-El of Krypton, the original Superman had returned to his adopted home. He had been places and dimensions that few had even knew of and even fewer understood. >>>>>He had wrestled with gods and demons. He had overturned hell and fought his way past the gates of Heaven looking for the soul of beloved Lois who due to his immortality he could never join in the afterlife.<<<< A haunted figure as removed from humanity as he had ever been his presence still caused a revolution in human society. To many it was the second coming of a legend from the past creating a spiritual revival and even worship of him from some, but he was beyond such social convention at that time."
Gotcha, Beyonder.
Can Superman Prime read minds? Yes, telepathy entered the Superman bloodline during...blah. Blah, I say. Cannot recall which century.
I see your comments regarding the IG - am very familiar with each gem and its powers. Superman Prime has the Sword of Truth and the Green Lantern ring. Are you familiar with either of them?
Have you read the JLA 1,000,000 crossover with Grant Morrison in which the Justice Legion A appears?
Admittedly you do have me. HOWEVER, and this is a big HOWEVER, you've only proven that he got past heaven's gate, not that he fought Micheal. If you have more on this, please provide it. Breaking through heaven's gate is impressive but it's not fighting Micheal. Furthermore, Thanos really can't break into any heaven since Marvel has no such place.
Prime wrestling with demons and gods still doesn't gauge his powers. Mephisto is a demon, while Death herself is one of three essentials of the universe and greater in power than all death gods (pluto, Hela, Mephisto, etc.). Beating demons doesn't help; it's too ambiguos. How powerful are these demons? Did Prime beat the Devil himself or something?
Prime beating gods is ambiguous as well. What kinds of gods are we talking about here? Darkseid, Thor, Odin, Zeus, Orion are all considered gods. Beings higher in power than these guys can also be regarded as gods in a sense. Beating gods doesn't guage his powers either - unless you can specify what gods they're stating. If it's THE GOD then we would have somehting.
Regarding the Sword of Truth, I don't know alot about it. But what has it actually done. As for the GL ring, is it a unique GL ring or just a GL ring.
Prime is impressive from what your stating, but has he been SEEN - not just stated - fighting thus demonstrating his might. All this about Prime being powerful, yet we still can't guage his level.
Thanos with the Gauntlet easily took the combined attack of Death, Galactus, two Celestials, Chaos & Order, Hate & Love, the Stranger, Mephisto, and a few other cosmic being, then took froze them all with a mere gesture. Eternity gave his best and the Titan beat him as well. The only being greater then him was LT.
I don't doubt Prime's uber power. Yet I do have to disagree as we still can't even guage his level. What other impressive feats have he done?
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Well we all know Superman is cheaper than a....erm....something cheap. But the fact that Superman Prime ALMOST has reason for being unbeatable is sorta ok.
He has weaknesses in that he shares his powers with his descendants.
moshtitan
he still wouldnt have a chance against SP. i read the other day one of his powers is hes unbeatable. how cheaps that?!
I wouldn't worry about that too much moshtitan. Juggernauts power is unstoppability, yet he still has been stopped. Unstoppability isn't actually unstoppability if anyone like Galactus or Tyrant went after him.
Everyone claims this and that, but until they prove it - don't take their words too seriously. Prime is as unbeatable as Kain is unstoppable.
the sword of truth is basicly for altering reality, he can change whatever into what he see's fit.
the GL ring's are just that, GL rings. he has all of them. tho I didnt even know there was more than one. but how ever many there are,
he has them
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and Juggernuat is as unstoppable as he can be....not sure how too word that one.
there is no force on earth that can stop him. obviously thing's not from earth will put him on his ass. but as far as what we have there is nobody strong enuf to completley stop him.
Hulk can grow much much stronger than Juggernaut, but he will only slow him down. then once he stop's to trade blows with Hulk he realize's this was a bad idea. shoulda kept going.
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the sword of truth is basicly for altering reality, he can change whatever into what he see's fit.
the GL ring's are just that, GL rings. he has all of them. tho I didnt even know there was more than one. but how ever many there are, but he has them
Thanks, I thought he had only one GL ring.
Another thing is, Thanos can erase Prime out of existance can't he; half the universe was taken out this way. With simple thoughts he captured the cosmic bridgade that wanted him to hand over the Infinity Gems and captured Eternity as well. I doubt Prime would do well against the Celestials and Death or, Eternity himself - he'd have to work for it. Thanos, however, stood around smurking and infuriating everyone - then casually beat them.
Warlock with the Gauntlet put a hurting on Eternity with one blast after Eternity pissed him off as LT was ruling on the gems fate. Prime would need more than one blow to hurt someone like Eternity.
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