Actually my infinite wisdom tell me that an asteroid is any interplanetary, or intersteller planitoid body, larger or smaller than any planet (the largest asteroid Mathilde is larger than Mercury.)
Whether Martian Manhunter could shapeshift and become intangable or not, it is irrelevant as physical attributes mean nothing on the astral plane.
My infinite wisdom also tells me that you don't read many Marvel comics. Most of the enemies that the more powerful marvel characters (not Spiderman, or Daredevil, mind you.) fight are aliens or gods. The Celestials, the Destroyer, the Collector, Galactus, Contemplator, Ego, Apocalypse, The Obliterator, Redshift, Enchantress, Terrax, or Thanos. All of them have power on a universal scale.
Does Joker possess planetary or universal power? Or Solomon Grundy? Or how about Harley Quinn? How many DC villains, besides Doomsday and Darksied, have universal power? How many people, (over the age of 12) even like the Justice League?
yes i agree it is irrevelant bcuz the fact that charles couldnt affect his mind they wouldnt even end up on the astral plane in the first place.
the point of breaking out the mistique thing was to show that a shapeshifter doesnt have to activate thier power to be impervious to charles, the fact that they have unstable molecules in the fist place is what makes the diff so j'onn would just walk over and back hand him out of his wheelchair and its over
secondly i wasnt trying to go t-i-t for tat as to what company has the most powerful beings. Again you make the mistake of calling upon cosmic beings and mythical dieties to make an argument for you. i am merley trying to point out to you that there are more "regular" plain ol bad guys in DC that has that kind of power, more than marvel does.
thirdly, all those characters you mention prove my point. for they are gods and cosmic beings, "which understanbly has that kind of power". they are in one or a few ppl's rogue's gallery. the only one on your list that makes any sense his apocalypse for he is only a mutant.
whenever Ego shows up in a comic you know that thor,thanos, or galactus must be near by. whenver you see the celestials they always go against thanos, or any body else who trying to stop them from doing something, but they never show up to earth and all the heroes have to band together to dispatch them. and galactus and his heralds only came to earth a few times with the exception of SS of course, and they always show up on the Fantastic 4's doorstep. but other than galctus, and apocalypse who else on your list has a vested interest in earth. to the point where they would want to lay siege to it, enslave or destroy the population? hardly any.
all those cosmic beings operate else where in the universe , or in different dimensions, and thats where they stay for the most part. but, whenever some god or demon shows up one person usually gets rid of them. the same way strange always stop dormammu all by himself. SOMETIMES, enlisting the aid of others. , but how many times has charcters like
Darksied
Mongol
Brainiac
Doomsday
Gen Eiling
Amazo
obsidian
general Zod
Dr. polaris
The sin eater
Grayven
GOG
the fairy tale lady
primordial evils like maggedon, id and JJ thunders genie's evil twin Djinn
Metallo
Sinestro
actually tried to destroy the earth for some reaon or another so that an entire group of heroes have to get involved. thats what im talking about. and of all these only a few are from outer space, or pan dimensional. whereas in marvel each and every one of the real heavy hitters are cosmics or gods.
Loki, Enchantress, and destroyer are all from Asgard buddy, thats not Earth. thats an extra dimensional realm, so much for how much you know.
i can only imagine what you wrote b4 paola edited, im sure whatever it was it couldnt have been good. shows you how some ppl cant accept it when thier silly arguments get shot down.
Wow! I am shocked that most people here think that MM could take out XAVIER. XAVIER is the epitome of telepathy. He is the icon of telepathy. He's the man that nerds and dorks sum other telepathy to. He is an omega level telepath. The only person who is prolly more powerful than him is X-Man. This guy turned magneto into a vegetable, he got through a telepathic static that X-Man caused causing the astral plane to disrupt and other telepaths to lose their powers when he got into our timeline which by the way is not an easy thing to do because we can see xavier , bleeding through his nose, and shut down the phoenix force. Before you say MM is this and that, mind your p's and q's kids.
Xavier is the "epitome" of physcic abilities because A.) More people know about him, B.) Not very many know about MM, and C.) Manhunter's psychic abilities are sometimes overshadowed by his many other abilities (flight, strength, intangibility, invisibility, etc.).
DC Fanboys are fighting a losing battle here. Just take a look at the polls. Martian Manhunter's telepathy is probaly on par with Marvel Boy from the New Warriors. ^__^
I've always thought that MM's telepathy was more combat-orientated (better in battle), whereas CX's telepathy was more passive and more global (more able to read minds of a large number of people).
MM has better telepathy in quality, but xaviers has a much larger range.
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