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He also got taken by surprise - and considering it seems to be one of those random type of protective shields, not the reinforced, 'taking focus to mantain' ones, it's quite impressive.


Yes, I agree.


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Phoenix beat Firelord in "Phoenix Unleashed"

Magneto beat Phoenix in "Planet X."

Magneto will beat Firelord in "KMC Comic vs"



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i'd reassess my 'handily' to less than handily and add an--it would be a very cool battle.


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Mags wins.


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can Firelord pass Magneto's shield ?


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You mean break through it?


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You mean break through it?
which ever works


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Maybe after awhile of fighting and wearing Magneto down, he's not getting through it with a few blasts.


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IIRC, when Phoenix fought Firelord, she was knocking him around and he even compared her to Thor. When Magneto fought that same incarnation, he depowered her with a magnetic bottle effect.

They're power levels are similar but Magneto has an extremely good record when it comes to energy manipulation. If Firelord just tries to blast Magneto like he does the majority of the time, it's not going to turn out well imo.

On a related note, wasn't it stated that the High Evolutionary had synthesized Magneto's powers specifically for depowering the Surfer recently?

I wonder if Magneto could f*ck with the Power Cosmic. It would be interesting to see the Surfer and Magneto battle.


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On a related note, wasn't it stated that the High Evolutionary had synthesized Magneto's powers specifically for depowering the Surfer recently?

I wonder if Magneto could f*ck with the Power Cosmic. It would be interesting to see the Surfer and Magneto battle.
i was actually thinking about that the other day.

magneto's powers are largely electromagnetic and extend to the other forces, whereas surfer's are all across the board but are limited in depiction in the electromagnetic and gravitational forces (cis might be the main issue there)

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(note* weak force and strong force are more powerful than electromagnetism and gravity)

surfer also has more gas in the tank though, and built in durability and speed...and the ability to take away mutant powers iirc


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smh at pg


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I think Firelord would win because the Power Cosmic is just overall a more powerful force for what it does, and it can manipulate energy extremely well. Firelord would have to fight smart though and not lose his temper - if he can manage that he will win eventually.

Firelord could go for gamma ray or high intensity laser blasts, both of which will go through any magnetic shield, though if he is prepared it's possible Mags could counter. But can't the Heralds manipulate gravity? Really anyone with gravimetric powers should be able to mess Magneto up badly, since his powers don't stop gravity.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
i was actually thinking about that the other day.

magneto's powers are largely electromagnetic and extend to the other forces, whereas surfer's are all across the board but are limited in depiction in the electromagnetic and gravitational forces (cis might be the main issue there)

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surfer also has more gas in the tank though, and built in durability and speed...and the ability to take away mutant powers iirc
Surfer created a black hole he also has G in his pocket then.


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(note* weak force is more powerful than electromagnetism)


No it isn't.


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you're correct, i meant the strong force

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Surfer created a black hole he also has G in his pocket then.
yeah my bad, he's also well into the electromagnetic spectrum considering cosmic is the highest form of radiation, his energy drain feats are also huge indicators of his overall electromagnetic powers.


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you're correct, i meant the strong force


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC, when Phoenix fought Firelord, she was knocking him around and he even compared her to Thor. When Magneto fought that same incarnation, he depowered her with a magnetic bottle effect.


In Jean's defense, it was later explained that "psionic circuit breakers" were in effect after the M'krann incident so that she'd never be tempted to abuse her power or something. She fought Magneto with the circuit breakers in place, she even comments that something is wrong she's calling on more power and it's not manifesting.

Back on topic, Magneto 10/10.


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