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Iron Fist vs. Sabretooth
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Back when Creed wasn't even written as a mutant, lol.


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Indeed. Sabretooth before he was written as a mutant and rival of Wolverine was a jobber. Though not completely feat less, but still, making him as a partner of Constrictor clearly shows he wasn't really a major threat.

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He was hospitalised by Spidey ripping off his webs LMFAO


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He was hospitalised by Spidey ripping off his webs LMFAO
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He was hospitalised by Spidey ripping off his webs LMFAO


And ran away from Daredevil, despite the fact DD admits that his best shots do bassically nothing to Sabretooth.

Sabretooth is usually used by writers as a jobber in order to nake a character who defeated him look awesome (like it was with Silver Sable, for example).

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Back when Creed wasn't even written as a mutant, lol.
Wolverithmetics still alive, I see.


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look how happy creed is

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That last panel with his bent wrist is hilarious. Comic -Fu indeed.


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Reminds me of his grin here:

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That jaw punch. And Creed isn't even flinched, when Iron Fist hurt his hand. Not to mention, it's non-adamantium Sabretooth.

Good durability feat for Creed.

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That last panel with his bent wrist is hilarious. Comic -Fu indeed.


It's more like a Kung Fu or Wing Chun stance, I perhaps. Still, looks hilarious.

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That jaw punch. And Creed isn't even flinched, when Iron Fist hurt his hand. Not to mention, it's non-adamantium Sabretooth.

Good durability feat for Creed.


Creed is durable as f*ck.

Tanked IF in their most recent fight, too.

Most of his appearances are adamantiumless; Greg Pak having a brain fart and forgetting about it for an issue or two doesn't change it.


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Creed is durable as f*ck.

Tanked IF in their most recent fight, too.

Most of his appearances are adamantiumless; Greg Pak having a brain fart and forgetting about it for an issue or two doesn't change it.


Indeed. I remember how once enraged Nightcrawler turned Creed into a living pin-cushion by stabbing him with all of his sword, foils and other melee weapon. Only to see him smiling and ready to rip Kurt in shreds. Kurt later just retreated.

Yes, Creed get a good showing against Danny Rand in their most recent fight. Trashed Iron Fist across the bar and took his best shots. Fight was inconclusive, but at least Creed wasn't a jobber on that ocassion.

I know. Sabretooth and adamantium are extremely incompetent thing.

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Indeed. I remember how once enraged Nightcrawler turned Creed into a living pin-cushion by stabbing him with all of his sword, foils and other melee weapon. Only to see him smiling and ready to rip Kurt in shreds. Kurt later just retreated.


More specifically, Kurt was spared, as Creed was still "inverted" back then.

It was undone during the Azazel arc.

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Yes, Creed get a good showing against Danny Rand in their most recent fight. Trashed Iron Fist across the bar and took his best shots. Fight was inconclusive, but at least Creed wasn't a jobber on that ocassion.


Being essentially powerless was one thing, the other "little detail" is that Creed got a few significant upgrades.

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I know. Sabretooth and adamantium are extremely incompetent thing.


There was a time when Marvel and DC hired editors who loved comics and provided readers with on-panel continuity notes often.

Now? Quantity over quality, deadlines forcing writers/artists to write stories worse than fan fiction and produce art worse than fan art.

That being said, I wouldn't mind Pak giving Creed the metal back, if he at least decided to stick with his decision in his own damn book laughing out loud


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More specifically, Kurt was spared, as Creed was still "inverted" back then.

It was undone during the Azazel arc.



Being essentially powerless was one thing, the other "little detail" is that Creed got a few significant upgrades.



There was a time when Marvel and DC hired editors who loved comics and provided readers with on-panel continuity notes often.

Now? Quantity over quality, deadlines forcing writers/artists to write stories worse than fan fiction and produce art worse than fan art.

That being said, I wouldn't mind Pak giving Creed the metal back, if he at least decided to stick with his decision in his own damn book laughing out loud


Inverted?

Yeah, that's true. Comparing 1977-1985 Creed with his relatively modern incarnations is incorrect (a lot of people love to use moments, where Creed wasn't even described as a mutant and didn't had healing factor to show how he's weak and pathetic, and it's annoying, honestly).

And yes. No wonder why modern writing of DC and Marvel is similar with fanfics. And heck, even fanfics sometimes can be written better than official canon stories. Especially if the writer of that fanfic actually knowx the characters and their personalities/capabilities. And fan arts also can be way better than official drwaing of the characters in comics.

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Inverted?


AXIS. Good guys turned bad, bad guys turned good there.

The spell wasn't reversed for everyone. Stark and Creed stuck with their inverted moral compass.

That's why Stark relapsed back to alcoholism and made cash on Extremis.

For Creed, it meant trying to be heroic --- which he sucked at, frankly, but at least he stopped being the inhuman monster for a while.

That was also why he teamed-up with Rand and why he felt he was owing Constrictor something. Non-inverted Tooth wouldn't give two shits about the man's legacy or his son.


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Ah, got it. Thanks.

I remember it. But later, however, Creed turned back to his feral nature. And honestly, being a monster is way better for him, he was meant to me like that.

Okay, now it explains something.

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But later, however, Creed turned back to his feral nature.


As I said, yes.

It took four fucking years... but yes:

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As I said, yes.

It took four fucking years... but yes:

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plus, Creed is a sociopath and psychopath, so no wonder why he's so savage.

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Yeah, that's true. Comparing 1977-1985 Creed with his relatively modern incarnations is incorrect (a lot of people love to use moments, where Creed wasn't even described as a mutant and didn't had healing factor to show how he's weak and pathetic, and it's annoying, honestly).
Wolverithmetics just as infectious as ever, to boot... the longer thread I linked earlier discusses this... "questionable" notion:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums...mp;pagenumber=1

Maybe merge these threads.


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Your hate boner never gets old

Maybe you need some Wolverithmetics in your life; it always brings you back here, after all... not to mention that you've finally learned how to save pics in your browser. We haven't forgotten what "D" in your username stands for wink

But I heard you rather willingly betrayed us for those CBR cunts, eh? stick out tongue

You believe Danny wins, that's fine, but it's a simple fact that Danny never quite managed to replicate the original feat against Creed; beating him with his bare hands while snowblind... and that little fact just might have something to do with Creed not being written as a character with superpowers back then, don't ya think?

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