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carver9
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I recall him lifting a teetering island with the aid of Sue Storm. Also he was flying when he lifted it iirc.

I agree, he was flying but the guy had a jet pack on, so how much weight do you think miniature jet pack can lift. I dont remember sue aiding him in lifting that either and that feat alone would still be more than 50000 tons since the island had a mountain on it even if he had the aid of flight (jet packs). confused

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WM isn't even Class 100, is he? BA easily takes this

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Decent in the sense that it would last more than ten panels. Mostly because BA would play around with him.

So the fight wouldnt last ten panels due to wondermans super speed, super strength, nigh invulnerability, and ionic powers. The same powers that gave him a chance against high end opponents?

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WM isn't even Class 100, is he? BA easily takes this

How isnt he class 100 when he helped Ms. Marvel lift the hellicarrier? confused

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Simon is nowhere near fast enough to keep up with BA if he gets serious, his fight with Jay Garrick was going so fast that everyone else stopped.

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How isnt he class 100 when he helped Ms. Marvel lift the hellicarrier?

his feats are so up-and-down, that definitely is beyond Class 100. Makes no difference in this battle though

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Simon is nowhere near fast enough to keep up with BA if he gets serious, his fight with Jay Garrick was going so fast that everyone else stopped.

That was a nice feat, I havent seen anyone repeat it yet thats why I think of him as>Captain Marvel and Supes.

The thing about black adam is that he likes to fight, he wouldnt use that amazing speed against wonderman in the beginning.

By the way, wonderman has some amazing speed showing also, not on adams level but he has superhuman speed.

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That was a nice feat, I havent seen anyone repeat it yet thats why I think of him as>Captain Marvel and Supes.

The thing about black adam is that he likes to fight, he wouldnt use that amazing speed against wonderman in the beginning.

By the way, wonderman has some amazing speed showing also, not on adams level but he has superhuman speed.

superman and wally surpassed it. you read the comic.

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superman and wally surpassed it. you read the comic.

They were running, they werent punching or reacting anywhere close to what garrick and black adam was doing. Superman and wally was just running in a straight line.

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Supes and Wally were going over 2000 miles per second. BA and Jay were going Mach 500.

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They were running, they werent punching or reacting anywhere close to what garrick and black adam was doing. Superman and wally was just running in a straight line.

they were dodging and weaving around civilians. that's not a straight line. they were even running up buildings. and having a conversation.

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Supes and Wally were going over 2000 miles per second. BA and Jay were going Mach 500.

You answered my question for me.

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You're trying to suggest Jay Garrick is faster than Wally West? blink

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You answered my question for me.

2000 miles per second is faster than mach 500, as juntai pointed out.

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they were dodging and weaving around civilians. that's not a straight line. they were even running up buildings. and having a conversation.

I agree, they were but the difference is, black adam and garrick was actually FIGHTING at this speed and the world wasnt even moving around them.

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I agree, they were but the difference is, black adam and garrick was actually FIGHTING at this speed and the world wasnt even moving around them.

yes, and superman and wally were moving 20 TIMES faster than them and STILL having a conversation and showing reaction speed.

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You're trying to suggest Jay Garrick is faster than Wally West?

I never said that, jay garrick top speed is 2000 mps, wally goes the speed of light.

Wally wasnt even using 1% of his speed when he was racing superman so what was the point of your post??

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2000 miles per second is faster than mach 500, as juntai pointed out.

Isnt mach 1 334mps?

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Hawk man lost the fight but he also gave him trouble so why wouldnt someone that is stronger, faster, more durable and has better powers (ionic form) give Black adam a run for his money.

Wonderman is underrated. He should be able to give ANY high herald (besides someone like surfer due to versatility) a fight. Not win but give a decent fight.

You're missing the point. NTH METAL MACE

Oct 25th, 2009 04:26 AM