I never read it. But what I am trying to say is there is noway of telling who in fact is more Powerful. But from what I have seen there is no indication that Lucifer is more powerful.
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your missing he doesn't want to, he wants to be bored because it lets him know he could be more, or less - it makes him understandable and allows the exploration of his psyche and the issues explored within Lucifer. It means a character - something LT does not really have.
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Yes but that is one of the problems i have with it... we are trying to write about characters we shouldn't have any comprehension of. The whole thing is a personfication (maybe the wrong word) of lucifer which makes it invalid.
From what i know of the bible, there is little on the subject. Most of what generally accepted is based on Catholicisms interpretations. I know the Lucifer from the bible had very little, in the way of power. Its limited to shape shifting, and the ability to tempt all. Except for Jesus of course.
Well the way I see it is everything is part of nature even misguided beliefs in god. My brother taut me alot about Atheism and I am sad to say I forget alot of what he says. But I understand alot better now about religion and atheism
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Its not all the bible Lucifer Jewish Source texts etc, are the origin of Morningstar. The Koran like the new testament explores the Devils role, revalations indicates his power This idea is just expanded into the universe rather than just the earth in comics.
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ok question lucifer stood at ground zero of the demiurgic explosion, one that could destroy an entire multiverse and didnt get a tan, tribunal was utterly destroyed by the heart of the universe as it destroyed the multiverse..........tribunal is the protector of the single marvel multiverse and hence does not have enough power as the marvel multiverse{a proven fact due to his destruction with the heart of the universe} lucifer has created one multiverse single handedly, has 50%of the power to CREATE a multiverse at any given damn time without even thinking about it and can kill himself at any time to destroy and/or create an entire multiverse{and he will be reborn intantaneously because death has no domain over him} and has also created more than one multiverses,NOW wouldnt that suggest quite simply to every1 that lucifer is above even the heart of the universe let alone the puny tribunal?
Without Michale help, Lucifer can't create Universe. And you do realise that Living Tribual is also son of God.
They are equal.
Heart of the Univeres was God power, Lucifer would also go down extremely easily. Heart of the Universe only showed God power, no matter how powerful being aka. Living Triubunal, will go against God power, will be insect againt God power, so Lucifer would be also shown as insect against HOTU.
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Why are you stating this rubbish once again. Leon as a fan of the Lucifer comics i have already told you this isnt true. You obviously do not read the comics and are going by hearsay and unofficial websites. Lucifer created a UNIVERSE for the Presence and for himself and both required the aid of Michael. Michael is the matter provider, Lucifer is the shaper. They simply cannot make a universe on their own.
Lucifer killing himself will not result in the creation of a universe let alone a multiverse. Killing Michael however will result in a explosion of the demiurgic energies Yahweh gave to him which of course act as the building blocks to create a universe. Lucifer has gods will as his given power.
I spent last night gathering all appropriate scans. Speak of this rubbish again and i will post them.
no lucifer fan you say? i think he is the coolest sharacter in comics rigtht now!!!!!!!!!! both marvel or dc, i have read many lucifer comics, sandman, constantine, preacher comics among others, {its definately higher than you who after ALL HIS READINGS seems to think that lucifer can not even create a single universe without micheal, which is by far the most ridiculous thing ive heard out of ur mouth after ur definition of the pheonix force,} and btw, galactic storm, havent you been humiliated enough for one week, do you get off on humiliation or sumthin cause i can provide a lot more if you want.
and btw, i would love to see those scans{that you have apparently prepared} that show lucifer and micheal together creating nuthing more than a universe and where lucifer is god's servant and will{another ridiculous thing as lucifer is THE DEVIL the opposite of god's will and power.
The ruler of Hell isn't the opposite of God in DC.
GS is right, when Lucifer killed Michael he took him into the Void where the demiurgic power wouldn't destroy the original multiverse. Once Michael was dead (and the demiurgic power created matter) Lucifer used his own power to create a new multiverse seperate from God's.
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