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And the fight with Red was a bit over 17 hours till gettig defeated.

Plus when a kitana went through his lungs, he was down for a while and complained about how much it hurt to. There goes that inconsistancy again.


ya it's true. writers are inconsistent with characters abilities. it's not my fault. i just told some of the things they have done.

and i was just estimating to 24. i'm sorry. i shoulda said 17

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The OP said stab in the heart. Was that in the heart though? Doesnt seem like it. But close. And did X-23 just stab and pull out. Or did she keep it in for a bit and twisted it around?
heart shot.

Doesn't matter Hulks punches and even spiderman's punches turn his innards into wonder jello, the spear would have to be kept in to acheive the deisred effect.


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heart shot.

Doesn't matter Hulks punches and even spiderman's punches turn his innards into wonder jello, the spear would have to be kept in to acheive the deisred effect.


Difference is that Spiderman and Hulks punches SHOULD turn his innards to jello. He was struggling from a punctured lung. A stab to the heart with some twisting would/should definately put him down for good.

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Difference is that Spiderman and Hulks punches SHOULD turn his innards to jello. He was struggling from a punctured lung. A stab to the heart with some twisting would/should definately put him down for good.
No, there punches DO turn his innards into wonder jello.

His innards have no greater durability than a regular persons, they take the damage as normal, but they reform by the time the person lands then next shot.


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No, there punches DO turn his innards into wonder jello.

His innards have no greater durability than a regular persons, they take the damage as normal, but they reform by the time the person lands then next shot.


Do you have proof they turn his organs into "wonder-jello"? Or are you just using logic to come to this conlcusion?


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Do you have proof they turn his organs into "wonder-jello"? Or are you just using logic to come to this conlcusion?


I was thinking the same thing. Cause if thats the case, then logically, their punches should go through him everytime they punch him in the stomach.

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No, there punches DO turn his innards into wonder jello.

His innards have no greater durability than a regular persons, they take the damage as normal, but they reform by the time the person lands then next shot.


Actully Spider-man never turns his organs into wonder-jello, he always aims for the adamantium skull :s maybe if he went for the gut once in awhile...

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I was thinking the same thing. Cause if thats the case, then logically, their punches should go through him everytime they punch him in the stomach.


And logically if he's punched in the head by someone like Wendigo his brain would turn to mashed potatos, much like the ones I have just got done eating. Can his healing factor heal that?


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the easiest way to kill Wolverine is to drown him.


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Yes drowning him would work. Although the person doing the drowning would need to be sufficiently strong, fast, agile and intelligent to do it. Someone like Thor comes mind definitely. Namor definitely. They simply need to grab his wrist and hold him under. This is turning into a sort of sadistic topic. Hmm..well, anyway he would drown for sure.


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i think the only way wolverine can die is internal bleeding and drowning or not breathing somehow

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no it's been stated that logans organs turn to jelly when hulk smashes him, yet wolverine continues to get up and strike back because his muscles reform so fast.. in another instance it was stated that they were reforming before the next punch.


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Now where could I possibly have gotten the idea and even the phrase that spiderman punching him turns his innards(the brain is an organ guys. . .:rolleyesmile into Wonder-Jello?

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Ok but could he survive someone cutting up his heart? Would he even be able to move while it was happening much less fight back? So his organs and regeneration capabalities have an elasticity about them so that if something on him werecompletely disfugured and rearranged they would grow back to normal instantly? If something very physically traumatic happens it can kill him, right? It's known that when his skeleton was ripped from his body he needed outside helpo t o keep him alive. While getting your heart scrambled isn't as gruesome as getting your skeleton ripped out it is arguably no less lethal and VERY traumatic.


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Now where could I possibly have gotten the idea and even the phrase that spiderman punching him turns his innards(the brain is an organ guys. . .:rolleyesmile into Wonder-Jello?


Yes the brain is an organ. I believe everyone learns that in grade school. HOwever, it's an extremely complex organ. One that we don't completely understand. Since it's so complex it could be argued that it is more difficult to regenrate than say a liver or a broken toe.


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Ok but could he survive someone cutting up his heart?
Simply cutting up his heart, but leaving it in there without the thing that cut it?

Why wouldn't he? Hulk and Spiderman turn his innards into Wonder jello. but his organs reform and he's just fine afterwards.

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Would he even be able to move while it was happening much less fight back?
What would prevent that? Pain?

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So his organs and regeneration capabalities have an elasticity about them so that if something on him werecompletely disfugured and rearranged they would grow back to normal instantly?
Hulk and spiderman.

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If something very physically traumatic happens it can kill him, right? It's known that when his skeleton was ripped from his body he needed outside helpo t o keep him alive.
Having the adamantium ripped out after a fight with magneto so he was already messed up you mean?

Tax his system out and you can kill him. but you have to tax his system out first.

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While getting your heart scrambled isn't as gruesome as getting your skeleton ripped out it is arguably no less lethal and VERY traumatic.
Simply scrambled isn't going to do much. the skeleton rip is over a larger area doing damage to everything between his bones and the way out. . . Probably a complete disconnect of certain parts.


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Now where could I possibly have gotten the idea and even the phrase that spiderman punching him turns his innards(the brain is an organ guys. . .:rolleyesmile into Wonder-Jello?


"An ordinary man would be wonder-jello"

What does that have to do with his innards(stomach, intestines, bladder, kidneys), in which we were mainly talking about?

Its clear that Spiderman is punching him in the head. Not his innards. The stomach innards are way more accessible than the brain.

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"An ordinary man would be wonder-jello"

What does that have to do with his innards(stomach, intestines, bladder, kidneys), in which we were mainly talking about?

Its clear that Spiderman is punching him in the head. Not his innards. The stomach innards are way more accessible than the brain.
Wolverine's innards are no more durable than that of an ordinary man. He just heals back faster.


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and his fights with hulk?


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i think most people here seriously overrate Wolverine's durability and healing factor. I dont think Wolverine is even in the top 10 for healing factors, and he has normal skin density. Any sorta blast, like one from Genis or the Silver Surfer or guys like that would probly kill Logan instantly. Im not 100% sure on this, but i dont think he can heal from being a skeleton from having all his skin blasted off.


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