wolverine's a better fighter
slades a stronger person
slade hasn't proven that he's be consistantly faster than wolverine... sure he's reacted to the likes of flash and wonderwoman but WW was depowered and flash was easily goaded into getting hit... the same way batman tricked flash into being tripped. but in terms of consistant h2h speeds.. his best feet is in crisis where he fights the JLA.... there's a lot of evidence that he COULD be faster than logan.. but that one occasion conflsics with MANY more occasions where he's been hit and contested by human beings or people of logans speed or slower.
logan definitely has a better healing factor..
senses are equal.. ds can see microscopic things, wolverine can sense incoming dangers before they arrive.
durability wise. ds has been put down by a stomp from superboy... wolverine's consistantly stood up to hulk
ds has toys.. not many of them will effect wolverine though...
all and all the only x factor in this fight is the speed issue... that could go either way.. but because wolverine can chop of DS limbs and not the other way around.. wolvie wins more often than not...
remember that a vast majority of DS' most impressive feats vs. big names are dealing with people he's already prepared for.
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gimme a break. wolverine rarely does things like heal a heart in three panels and take shots from the hulk. 85% of the time he goes down healing from MUCH less. ord put him down for more than three panels with nothing but a gut-slice.
did u just say rarely does those kidna of showings? this is comming from a man who knows nuthing about wolverine and clearly shows it more and mroe with every post.
the orb incident when crap. it was far from the norm. that one of wolverines worse showing ever. but to be fair it likly it was poisoned with a special alien type drug that effected powers.
Considering I have read almost every Wolverine appearance listed in Wizard Magazines Ultimate Wolverine Appearance Guide and many more that aren't listed I think I might have a better idea what the normal level of Wolverine's healing factor then you do...
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here a few durability feats of logans. also theses are also fights logan has ahd with high strength level people and in each of these fights he takes a hit from the high level guy he is fighting.
(Giant –sized X-men 3) wolverine gets hit from behind then hit a couple more times full on by thunder bird with out looking effected at all. Last I checked t-bird is class 90.
(x-men #444 to 445) a whole school blows up from a mutant and wolverine is right at it core and wolverine is hurt, but far from KO.
Wolverine Vs Tiger Shark. He fought and took hits from tiger shark and kept coming. There first fight was in the water and the second which this pic is from is were wolverine beats tiger shark who is class 100. http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?...nen20p132qn.jpg
(wolverine vs hulk #8) bone claws wolverine vs. green hulk even bone clawed wolverine took quite a few this from hulk.
here another fight wolverine had with a class 100 and came out on top. Wolverine takes in this fight with ba’al quite a good amount of hits and keeps coming. http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t6xn.jpg
(The New Invaders #6 enemy of the state tie-in) wolverine fight Namor and takes a few hits from Namor and keeps coming and wins the match, This is Namor and wolverine second fight with eachother
Spiderman going all out on a smiling wolverine. This is for the people who said Spiderman could “kill Wolverine with one punch” also for the people who said Spiderman could “KO” Wolverine with one shot. http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?...p197rt452ih.jpg
Wolverine beats rough-house with his fists. (Rough-house is stated by (marvels wolverine official hand book 2004) to be strength class of a 6 which is the same strength class colossus is in. he is also stated (wolverine # 123) to be just under hulks level of strength. http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ughhouse6bd.jpg
(wolverine #123) bone claws wolverine is chained up and is beaten over and over by rough-house and never shown through out the comic to pass out. So Wolverine getting beaten on over and over by a class 90 I am sorry but Spiderman could never take that beating.
(New thunderbolts #4) wolverine ahs a sword right through his him and is walking around and doing thing like the sword is not even effecting him, there is no way Spiderman could ever do that.
(Marvel team up #13) Titannus hit wolverine full force twice and wolverine is right back up on the next page which is 3 panels later. Titannus is the same guy who took the hulk out in 3 hits.
(The uncanny x-men 380) wolverine who has no healing factor because of evolutionary takes blast after blast from sinister.( at the end of the fight he regains his healing factor but a fraction of what it was)
(Uncanny x-men #398) a guy uses a high powered flame thrower on wolverine and wolverine just stand there on firer still quite fine and then the guy through to gas grenades at wolverine and the explode making the flames even bigger and wolverine still stand there fine and then fights the guy.
(x-men lost tales 97) wolverine fights his whole team and does pretty dam well. At one point he takes full on blast from banshee,storm ,jean,Cyclopes and is not even KO and keeps on fighting.
(Wolverine CaptainAmerica #2) wolverine has many many bullets in him most likely 100 give or take a few. Wolverine because of the design of the bullets he is unable to heal them and yet he gets back up a few panels later and is up walking around and fights a lady who has 10 times that of a human in every way due to her suit. Spiderman could never take that many bullets and walk around never.
i've read virtually every wolverine issue since morrison's run. those are the relevant issues. i don't care about the seventies, eighties or nineties. characters change. deal with it, stagnation is unbecoming.
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I try to stay way from using current Wolverine examples because people are convinced that they are so out of character based on what Wolverine has done in the passed because Marvel wants to appease the so called "Legions of Wolverine fanboys" (aka the half a dozen people on the forum who don't harbor an unnatural hatred for Wolverine).
Either way I can prove my point... so you just take your pick I guess
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Do you know for a fact, 100% sure, that the sword was poisoned with a "special alien type drug that effected powers"? Cuz that sounds like a clear assumption and wild speculation. Wolverine can be put down by something like that. It happens.
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That's only true if you know nothing about computers. Comparing computers from the early 90's, when I think Jinzin said that scan came from, to now is like comparing a Model-T to a... Dodge Viper or something.
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But Regis was a Telepath, he pretty much used Midknighters power against him. Its like a the other chess player, hacking into that Chess computer. I don't really see it as Jobbing, just good writing. I don't mind it when a superior character beats one of my favourites, I certainly don't consider it Jobbing.
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I think that the usual problem with Wolverine "taking Class 100 hits" is not with Wolverine taking the punch, it's the guy punching. The punches are, in most cases, shown ridicolously lesser what they are actually capable of.
The computer uses a bodily scan to calculate the characters strengths a weaknesses. You'll be surprised what subconscious body language will tell a Super Computer.
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