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It's "Characters fighting at their best" not necissarily best showings.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:19 AM
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I didn't see those anywhere in the rules...
I was just kidding.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Going by KMC rules we use each characters best showings.
We also go by the current versions. DS back in the day may have been a force to be reckoned with. But unless I'm mistaken, DS's most recent non-ALE battle's, have him loosing to Supes 3 times.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:23 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
We also go by the current versions. DS back in the day may have been a force to be reckoned with. But unless I'm mistaken, DS's most recent non-ALE battle's, have him loosing to Supes 3 times.
Then Thanos is dead so he can't be in the match.So as Odin and Tyrant.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:24 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Then Thanos is dead so he can't be in the match.So as Odin and Tyrant.
Yes, but that would be a spite thread(and we all know that nvr doesn't make those ). So I'm assuming that we're talking about Thanos just before he died, Odin just before he died, DS just before he got the ALE, and Tyrant...wait, what the f*ck ever happened to Tyrant anyway?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes, but that would be a spite thread(and we all know that nvr doesn't make those ). So I'm assuming that we're talking about Thanos just before he died, Odin just before he died, DS just before he got the ALE, and Tyrant...wait, what the f*ck ever happened to Tyrant anyway?
Morg fried him with the UN.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:27 AM
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Tyrant got asploded by the Ultimate Nullifier.
I about said UN, but then people would assume it was United Nations and Marvel was copying off Kingdom Come.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:28 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Then Thanos is dead so he can't be in the match.So as Odin and Tyrant.
We don't know if he is dead or not.
Also, I think by the dead characters, we go by before they died.
Tyrant wins.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:28 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Morg fried him with the UN.
Ah... Well then Tyrant just before that. Don't worry, eventually they'll get someone who'll write DS back into a place of power, but until then he's still 2nd to Supes.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah... Well then Tyrant just before that. Don't worry, eventually they'll get someone who'll write DS back into a place of power, but until then he's still 2nd to Supes.
It is sad that Loeb screwed him
I bet he will screw Onslaught aswell.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:31 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah... Well then Tyrant just before that. Don't worry, eventually they'll get someone who'll write DS back into a place of power, but until then he's still 2nd to Supes.
It may not happen for a while though. They're still high on this "Superman is essential to the source" sorta thing. Darkseid may be playing second fiddle for a while.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Oh sure then Batman can beat Grundy anytime he wants and Supergirl can take out the JLA alone and Wolverine get's 1 shoted by anyone who is stronger than a deer and Hulk get's beaten by anyone who is stronger then an anaconda and Galactus get's beaten by guys like Guardian.
Almost all of those have explanations behind them, though.
Grundy has various incarnations (some street-level and some top-tier), the fight between Supergirl and the JLA was written by Loeb, Wolverine wasn't really knocked out by the deer, and Casey explained that Hulk's incident with the snake was due to him grieving for his dead wife.
Dunno about the Guardian/Galactus incident to comment though.
Dec 19th, 2006 01:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Accel
Almost all of those have explanations behind them, though.
Grundy has various incarnations (some street-level and some top-tier), the fight between Supergirl and the JLA was written by Loeb, Wolverine wasn't really knocked out by the deer, and Casey explained that Hulk's incident with the snake was due to him grieving for his dead wife.
Dunno about the Guardian/Galactus incident to comment though.
Wolvie was one shoted by that deer.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:33 AM
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From what I hear, he faked being knocked out.
Dec 19th, 2006 01:34 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Accel
Almost all of those have explanations behind them, though.
Grundy has various incarnations (some street-level and some top-tier), the fight between Supergirl and the JLA was written by Loeb, Wolverine wasn't really knocked out by the deer, and Casey explained that Hulk's incident with the snake was due to him grieving for his dead wife.
Dunno about the Guardian/Galactus incident to comment though.
Anyway those low showing shouldn't be mentioned IMO.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:34 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
It is sad that Loeb screwed him
I bet he will screw Onslaught aswell.
I'll admit to that. DS back in the day was badass(I'm not sure he could actually TAKE Odin, but I can definitely see him giving him one Hell of a fight), but at this point he seems to have lost a bit of his fighting spirit(or maybe he's just getting old). However you view it, current non ALE Darkseid<Tyrant. Or Odin.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:36 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Wolvie was one shoted by that deer.
Which is something we all enjoy.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:37 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
I'll admit to that. DS back in the day was badass(I'm not sure he could actually TAKE Odin, but I can definitely see him giving him one Hell of a fight), but at this point he seems to have lost a bit of his fighting spirit(or maybe he's just getting old). However you view it, current non ALE Darkseid<Tyrant. Or Odin.
Imo he could take out Odin. Even his father Yuga Khan feared him Yuga Khan is supposed to be Dc's Galactus or something like that.
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Dec 19th, 2006 01:38 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Anyway those low showing shouldn't be mentioned IMO.
Well that depends. If they are actual LOW showing then yeah, they should be ignored. However, if it's just the way that the character is being written currently, then I feel it's valid. Writers don't normally want to go through a big ordeal with complicated story lines every time they want to move a certain character up or down the totem pole of power, it's easier just to write them at a higher or lower level. And if a character is consistently written at a higher or lower level(even without a recton, or massive story overhaul), then that's valid IMO.
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