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Estacado
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Also Surfer said that he could easily disintegrate Hulk the reason he didn't do it is because he only wanted to talk to him.
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Morg. It doesn't really means anything that War Hulk stopped Juggy. The main things is Morg has different powers that only brute strenght.

And any high classed magical creature can stop Classic Juggernaut. While Juggernaut's weakness is magic. Like Cable stabbed a magical knife into his eye and Juggy was bleeding. Cain's weakness is magic. Hulk stopped him that's all.

Morg took on eralds by himself alone as mentioned already in this thread.

His powers and the WOL give him enough to take on the Hulk.


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i dont understand.. why Marvel write Silver Surfer comics... of very different kind of arts...

is SS fighting guys like Spiderman...... he looks very weak in such a comic...

if he fights guys like Hulk.... he is the... man with UNBELIEVABLE power sources...


WHY ???

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basically all you need to know is that Morg with the WOL is above Surfer. and hulk is nothing to surfer.

there did that help?

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Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
What do you mean as shown? Juggernaut's helmet only protects him from psychic attacks, not physical attacks. Even without the helmet he is indestructible.

At his full power, Juggernaut has never been injured. When Onslaught ripped the gem from his chest he was weakened from being in an alternate reality (Malibu's run on the Exiles).

Plus the power of Cyttorak makes the user immortal, even if Hulk could cut him, he would just heal right up. As seen in the oneshot, Juggernaut can survive with NO major organs and still stand and fight.


as shown I mean his helmet is shown to have been taken off in the scan geez

didn't know about Juggy's healing factor in that case war hulk pobably couldn't cut off his head


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Warhulk stopped a running Juggernaut. He beat him easy. He could have cut his head off, but he did not. He beat the absorbing man - a guy who was on pair with Thor- in two panels...

Thor's Godblast could not stop the juggernaut, it could only slow him; War stopped him easy.

Ap. said Warhulk is a weapon against the celestials (just read the two issue of his apparence)

Warhulk is :

- celestial tech
- hulk's powers
- celestial weapons
- the energy of two dimensions who make him stronger and stronger (he is the post Onslaught Hulk)

go on ?


He would erase Morg from the reality. It happens Morg is my favourite char so i can be really unbiased here.

Wrong.War Hulk is no weapon against the celestials.He could behead Jugg?Prove it.He just pulled out his sword.He stopped Jugg after miles and miles of Jugg's forward momentum.He didn't left a bruise or a scratch of Cain's body.He has no Celestial's weapons.He carried a sword, a whip and battle armor.Morg is gonna behead War Hulk.
And Morg wins.

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Talk about getting sidetracked.. this isnt Hulk vs Juggernaut, this is Hulk vs a frigging herald. Morg should win this at least 8 out of 10. Sure Hulk has a sword, but who has more experience with their weapon of choice? Hulk who has never picked one up before, or Morg who has made a living even before becoming a herald by slaying people with various weapons.

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Originally posted by Betageuze
i dont understand.. why Marvel write Silver Surfer comics... of very different kind of arts...

is SS fighting guys like Spiderman...... he looks very weak in such a comic...

if he fights guys like Hulk.... he is the... man with UNBELIEVABLE power sources...


WHY ???
Would it be fun that Surfer destroys every hero he meets in comics? mad stick out tongue


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by redhotrash
Talk about getting sidetracked.. this isnt Hulk vs Juggernaut, this is Hulk vs a frigging herald. Morg should win this at least 8 out of 10. Sure Hulk has a sword, but who has more experience with their weapon of choice? Hulk who has never picked one up before, or Morg who has made a living even before becoming a herald by slaying people with various weapons.


Eight out of ten?

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Why do I have a feeling none of you guys have seen the scans of the fight, all the posts I have read in this thread are mostly assumptions. If you have actually seen the scans you would know The Hulk was easily handling Juggernaut, and him moving Hulk miles before he stopped him is bullshit, he moved him a couple of metres and an aura, which is the tech taking effect surrounded the Hulk, and from there juggernaut was thrown to cairo, or whatever city it was. The only logical conclusion from this is that the aura surrounding hulk is from the tech, which negates juggernauts enchantsments as celestial tech>cyttarok enchantments. Therefore when Hulk says he would take Juggys head off, when his sword is glowing, zomg.....celestial tech again taking effect, he would of beheaded him. The only way he survived was because of PIS, which was absorbing man saving juggs at the last minute
Also for the thread, Morg would win most probably, the WOL amped him up so much he was taking on all of Galactus' heralds and disaptching each one with ease, I remeber him actually killing one of the heralds, but don't know who. Only reason he lost was because of PIS, galactus removing his powers.

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Well to be honest If they were fighting at the normal status. Air-Walker=Class 100 Firelord=50 tons Terrax=Class 75 Nova=Class 50.


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^^He killed Nova (Frankie Raye), and Terrax basically begged SS to get galactus to get their backsides out of the fire. I would say Morg alone without WOL takes 9-10/10 against any version of the Hulk, due to the fact that the PC is simply too versatile for the Hulk. Take away PIS, as is the case on these boards, and the Hulk has little awy of winning.

With WOL, Morg is a team-buster, except that the team he busts are herald level beings, while Hulk is credited with the Avengers. Almost every herald should take War Hulk for a majority. Scans have been posted about how little Hulk can do to a pacifist surfer. Morg has no qualms about ending Hulk's life.

Healing factor? Yeah. Morg flays the Hulk, lets him heal, and flays him again, all the watching H2G2 and thinking about the great question. Repeat ad infinitum.

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Looking over this thread I've noticed a few inconsistencies.

War Hulk as a weapon of the Celestials - This i'm not entirely sure about , I have the issues though and i'll soon check.

War Hulk beating Creel - This was a genuine win , none of the bull-crap 'made him turn into glass'. He literally grabbed Creel and forced him down until AM turned into rubble.

Sword - The sword is possibly constructed out of Celestial tech , it's feasible that IF the Celestials rank higher the Cytorrak then the Sword may be able to pierce Juggs.


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Juggs get's shoved and sent Flying

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Almost decapitated



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He's not a weapon AGAINST the Celestials. Just an object to CONTROL them.


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Hulk----------><----------Morg


Brute strength wouldn't be the deciding factor in this battle.


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For those of you interested, I posted the entire War Hulk vs Juggernaut scans in this thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...-the-juggernaut


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Hmm, I wanted to bring this up.

Remember, all this War Hulk vs Juggernaut happened after Trion event. (This happened during the twelve sage, no?) Wasn't Juggernaut getting depowered? Some say he was losing more and more power after the Trion incident. So that would make the War Hulk's feat a bit more feasible. Don't ya'll agree?


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Why do I have a feeling none of you guys have seen the scans of the fight, all the posts I have read in this thread are mostly assumptions. If you have actually seen the scans you would know The Hulk was easily handling Juggernaut, and him moving Hulk miles before he stopped him is bullshit, he moved him a couple of metres


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Look at the top of this scan. Juggernaut was pushing Hulk back for At least a mile.


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