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Board Walker
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Super is above herald, so yeah in a sense he/she was right in saying superman isnt herald level.

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Jesus, and people say Sentry is over-rated/hyped. People like Superman and Orion make me sick, bio field and impassiable force field that you can't get through, developing invisiblity and intagibility by vibrating molecules, weapons that can kill gods. Supes and his allies are becoming sickening these days. I mean honestly how do you all love these characters that are damn near unbeatable and develope new abilities every damn issue. Supes is beating Despero, a guy who beat Supes ass and the JLA in the past on multiple occassions. Without all that bs Orion comes with, I give the victory to the Avengers.

much respect. thank god its other people on here besides 80 year old dc fanboys who still have wet dreams for supes.

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Superman is not above heralds of Galactus.

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Super is above herald, so yeah in a sense he/she was right in saying superman isnt herald level.

If I ate a cat, would I be right to refer to it as, "eating pussy"?

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He's capable of beating most of them. for a majority, I dunno. But he's at their level.

and Orion would kill most of the heralds.

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Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Actually, he's right.
Surfer, Terrax, Firelord, Stardust, Air-Walker, Morg, Nova, Alpha Ray Bill, Plasma, Ardina, Dominas, Starglow, Fallen One, Dark Angle, Destroyer, Red Shift, Aunt May, Rom, Dazzler, Uncle Ben, Johnny Storm (although brief), and even Thor (brief) are heralds.

Actually, Superman isn't a herald anymore either, so you may need to read some newer comics...

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Ahem. Kryptonian. stick out tongue

Orion solos the field. Thank you, good night.

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May 2nd, 2007 12:44 AM

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orion do needs more respect dc should make him and darksied shown as way WAY more powerful then supes/ most of the dcu. so yes orion should beat this group of avengers

May 2nd, 2007 12:48 AM

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AF = Alpha Flight

HA! I KNEW IT!

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's not a respect thread thing. And Bran, the point I was making, is that DC is often more powerful. and yes, Orion can solo the list. almost everyone here agrees with that.

If the DC Circe can't matter manip Orion, Marvel Sersi has no chance. and the AF can one-shot anyone here. Hell, he could go full blast and probably kill most of them, if not one-shotting the planet.

Orion can solo the list under who's pen?

Not even Simonson, his best writer would have him do that.

Simonson is to Orion, what Loeb was to Superman.

The only way Orion could solo this list, is if we take all his highend and disregard their highend.

Laughable, really.

And why does what goes for DC Circe, automatically extend to Marvels?

You don't even try to hide it, huh?

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...............DC Circe beat down the Greek Pantheon. She's skyfather level, you twit.

2nd, none of these marvel guys are equal to Superman. And even he admitted Orion can kill him. None of them can withstand the Astro Force or defeat Orion's force field, MB, etc.

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The only way Orion could solo this list, is if we take all his highend and disregard their highend.

Please tell me what any of the other characters in this thread can do in order to beat Orion /w/ AF. erm

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Please don't say Slugfest. The bricks aren't that good.

Not against someone who's fought Darkseid in H2H and drawn even.

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Please don't say Slugfest. The bricks aren't that good. Not against someone who's fought Darkseid in H2H and drawn even.

The bricks wouldn't stand a chance in hell against Orion... even in a pure slugfest IMO.

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May 2nd, 2007 04:21 AM

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If I ate a cat, would I be right to refer to it as, "eating pussy"?

Best quote ever. laughing

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Please tell me what any of the other characters in this thread can do in order to beat Orion /w/ AF.

Withstand it, like others have??

And to the remark about nobody being able to survive a slugfest with Orion..........lmao

He did do well against Darkseid, true.

But he's also referred to Kalibak as his physical equal, and that guys not above anyone on this list.

He's been hurt by less than uber means, even under simonson.

He's also been peerish to Superman, and doesn't walk over top tiers like you imply.

This overrating of characters is hella irritating, especially since it's not the characters you're debating, but the powersets.

And picking and choosing showings willy nilly.

I'd wager that the Hulk that clapped away the dark cosmos would do fine against the Astroforce.

Or the Hercules that along with Thor, closed a dimensional portal with strength alone would suffice in a brawl.

Or the Wonderman that survived the explosion of the Nega Bomb(which annihilated a Galaxy) at ground zero, along with Vision would do well against those nonexistent under Orions own control galaxy busting AF shots.

Or the Sentry who fought Genis in a fight that destroyed actual worlds(one being an alternate Hyperions), rather than the Supermen fight that merely alluded to them having the power to destroy worlds, but not doing so.
Imagine, all those fodder earths up to be destroyed, and DC still didn't print him doing so.

The team has the power to own Orion here.

You just don't wanna accept their showings.

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Originally posted by UniOmni
And picking and choosing showings willy nilly.

This statement had me rolling...

Especially after reading everything else in your post, which seemed to ONLY focus on Orion's lower showings.... roll eyes (sarcastic)

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May 2nd, 2007 04:37 AM

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New Gods are immune to Martian TP.

I've seen nothing that says their immune to tp entirely.

And Lol at Orion soloing this list.

Not happening, at all.

And WWH owned Trickster like i've wanted too, but held off due to fear of the banning stick.

I can't stand people who go by respect threads to get an idea of how powerful a character is.

Orion has never been taken out by a mental attack, even when Superman was straining against one from Despero, Orion was pretty much walking through it.

Not ALL new gods are totally immune, but Orion is AND with his helmet (which also can be used to block mental attacks) AND his mother box (which also can block mental probes), he's immune to mental attacks. Simple as that.

Orion is a league above everyone in this Avengers line up except Sentry. He'd run through them all. He might lose to Sentry, I don't know. No one does, really.

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Originally posted by Galan007

This statement had me rolling...

Especially after reading everything else in your post, which seemed to ONLY focus on Orion's lower showings....

Which you didn't do to the entire opposing team, to justify Orions victory in your mind?

Right............... roll eyes (sarcastic)

You named him fighting Darkseid as his high end, but if you really knew Orion, from his Kirby days, Kalibak has been his physical equal.

And let Orion have his af for his high end.

The high end of the opposing team lets them take it in stride.

But you probably didn't bring what everyone brought to the table to mind in your post, huh?

Team wins.

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Galan007
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Originally posted by UniOmni
You named him fighting Darkseid as his high end, but if you really knew Orion, from his Kirby days, Kalibak has been his physical equal.

Please repost the instance where I said ANYTHING like that.... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Get your shit together before you try blaming me for things, (especially things I didn't even say)... wink