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you say this in a world were people fly, shoot beams out there eyes and so on.


It makes no sense for Wolverine's neck muscles to be able to bend adamantium while Thor smacking it with his hammer hardly dents it.

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Also a punch from hulk is far stronger then any thing spiderman could do which further proves if spiderman had tried he would have failed


If Wolverine, who is weaker than Spider-Man, can bend the adamantium in his neck, why couldn't Spidey?

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go read the rules.

not to mention 70 tons alone proves it shitty evidences


The rules don't say I cannot reference marvel directory. And what strength level is he then?

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yet he has no feats that put him on wolverines level of healing now does he?


I said 'probably,' No Punctuation Lad.


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It makes no sense for Wolverine's neck muscles to be able to bend adamantium while Thor smacking it with his hammer hardly dents it.

it a comic book it not supose to make sense. Not to mention no matter how strong some one is they can't harm adamtium.

It a fact you can't break logans neck and that his bones are all attache there really nothing else to say.




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The rules don't say I cannot reference marvel directory. And what strength level is he then?

rules say to use official sources.....marvel dictionary is not an official source.

ares is around 100 ton's

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Oh god adamantium has been broken! by S'ym so what if it was a alternate wolverine, the only difference between the two logans was that one got trapped in limbo and the other one didn't, adamantium is adamantium and a demon broke it a demon who is 70 class strength level by the way. so let the fact that the metal has never been broken, snapped, pulled apart after cooling etc... die, like wolverine will in this battle.

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Oh god adamantium has been broken! by S'ym so what if it was a alternate wolverine, the only difference between the two logans was that one got trapped in limbo and the other one didn't, adamantium is adamantium and a demon broke it a demon who is 70 class strength level by the way. so let the fact that the metal has never been broken, snapped, pulled apart after cooling etc... die, like wolverine will in this battle.

sorry alternate reality is just that an alternate reality. There not the same. In one reality Logan killed every major villian in the mavrel universe........so that must mean 616 wolverine can.


your logic flawed.



Logan of the 616 reality has never has his adamtium broken. It can't be broken due to physical force though it can be manipulated by people such as thanos.

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Oh god adamantium has been broken! by S'ym so what if it was a alternate wolverine, the only difference between the two logans was that one got trapped in limbo and the other one didn't, adamantium is adamantium and a demon broke it a demon who is 70 class strength level by the way. so let the fact that the metal has never been broken, snapped, pulled apart after cooling etc... die, like wolverine will in this battle.


Alternate realities. An alternate reality Wolverine cut through Capitan America's shield like butter in one slice. An alternate reality Wolverine fought Gladiator for six solar cycles. None of that has any baring on a fight that involves canon appearances though.


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it a comic book it not supose to make sense.


Then you should have no problem with me saying someone like Punisher could toss Wolverine into the sun. I mean, it doesn't make sense and it's never been shown to happen but that doesn't matter since this is a discussion about comic books where nothing is supposed to make sense.

What's the point of even citing precedence in comics if the might of thor and mjollnir can't do something that Wolverine's neck/back muscles can do?

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Not to mention no matter how strong some one is they can't harm adamtium.


I guess Magneto rending it from Wolverine's bones didn't happen?

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rules say to use official sources.....marvel dictionary is not an official source.


I'm assuming they get their info from the comics.

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ares is around 100 ton's


Where is this demonstrated?

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it was cannon it happened in the Magik limited series, the 616 Xmen were involved, 616 Illyana was there, Belasco is 616, since there have never been any other s'yms and limbo is a nexus of realities and he has only ever messed around in 616 he is 616 too, and he snapped off an adamantium claw and used it as a toothpick.

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Oh god adamantium has been broken! by S'ym so what if it was a alternate wolverine, the only difference between the two logans was that one got trapped in limbo and the other one didn't, adamantium is adamantium and a demon broke it a demon who is 70 class strength level by the way. so let the fact that the metal has never been broken, snapped, pulled apart after cooling etc... die, like wolverine will in this battle.
S'ym is Class 100 with level 7 strength.
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it a comic book it not supose to make sense. Not to mention no matter how strong some one is they can't harm adamtium.

It a fact you can't break logans neck and that his bones are all attache there really nothing else to say.





rules say to use official sources.....marvel dictionary is not an official source.

ares is around 100 ton's
Ares is 70 tons according to the handbooks. Is that official enough?


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Then you should have no problem with me saying someone like Punisher could toss Wolverine into the sun. I mean, it doesn't make sense and it's never been shown to happen but that doesn't matter since this is a discussion about comic books where nothing is supposed to make sense.

What's the point of even citing precedence in comics if the might of thor and mjollnir can't do something that Wolverine's neck/back muscles can do?


Wolverine's skeleton is all interconnected in a way that it can't be pulled apart. Not only has it been show intact almost every single time it has been shown on panel with out his muscles/flesh but it was directly stated during his interaction with Ba'al. How is it connected in a way that he can still move? How should I know, but in a world where the scientists invent time machines, devices that allow you to operate at a 100x times the speed of light, and unbreakable metals I assume they are ingenious enough to figure out a way.


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it was cannon it happened in the Magik limited series, the 616 Xmen were involved, 616 Illyana was there, Belasco is 616, since there have never been any other s'yms and limbo is a nexus of realities and he has only ever messed around in 616 he is 616 too, and he snapped off an adamantium claw and used it as a toothpick.


The 616 X-Men were there, the other X-Men were from an alternate reality where (unlike the 616 team) they never escaped from Belasco. It was the corpse of an alternate realities Wolverine.


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Wolverine got served by S'ym. Twice actually.


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The 616 X-Men were there, the other X-Men were from an alternate reality where (unlike the 616 team) they never escaped from Belasco. It was the corpse of an alternate realities Wolverine.
Well 616 Logan could not tell the difference between the real Colossus and the dead one.


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Well 616 Logan could not tell the difference between the real Colossus and the dead one.


I don't think its ever been implied that alternate reality incarnations of characters have different scents that allow them to be told apart.


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I don't think its ever been implied that alternate reality incarnations of characters have different scents that allow them to be told apart.


It's been implied many times, idiot.


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It's been implied many times, idiot.



scans?


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Ares possesses the conventional superhuman attributes of an Olympian. However, some of these powers are more advanced than those of most Olympians.


Superhuman Strength: Ares possesses superhuman strength greater than that of the vast majority of Olympians and can lift approximately 70 tons. Among the Olympians, his strength is equaled only by Pluto and Neptune and exceeded only by Hercules and Zeus.

Superhuman Speed: Ares is capable of running and moving at speeds much faster than even the finest human athlete.


Superhuman Stamina: Ares musculature produces almost no fatigue toxins during physical activity. As a result, his body possesses almost limitless physical stamina in all activities.


Superhumanly Dense Tissue: Ares' skin, muscle, and bone tissue has roughly 3 times the density of the same tissue in the body of a human. This contributes, at least somewhat, to Ares' superhuman strength and his weight.


Superhuman Durability: The tissues of Ares' body are considerably harder and more resistant to physical injury than the body of a human being. Ares is capable of withstanding great impact forces, exposure to extremes in both temperature and pressures, falls from great heights, and powerful energy blasts without sustaining injury.


Superhuman Agility: Ares' agility, balance, and bodily cooordination are enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural physical limits of even the finest human athlete.


Superhuman Reflexes: Ares' reaction time is enhanced to a level that is beyond the natural physical limits of even the finest human athlete.


Immortality: Like all Olympians, Ares is functionally immortal. He has not aged since reaching adulthood and is immune to the effects of aging. He is also immune to all known Earthly diseases and infections.

Regenerative Healing Factor: Despite his body's high degree of resistance to physical injury, Ares, like all Olympians, can be injured. However, he is capable of repairing damaged or destroyed tissue with superhuman levels of speed and efficiency. However, Ares is not capable of regenerating missing limbs or organs without the aid of outside magical forces.

Known Abilities: Ares is a master of a variety of hand-to-hand combat skills. Also Ares is a master of all Olympian weaponry and most human weapons ranging from clubs to firearms and explosives. Well versed in military tactics, torture, combat engineering, and a vast amount of military history particularly focusing on battles and wars that involved Greek and Roman (or Italian) soldiers and armies. Ares is one of the most talented and ruthless soldiers that has ever fought on Earth.

Ares wins.


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Joking? no expression


Don't got any?

... thats convenient. evil face


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Don't got any?

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