People have tried to paralyze hulk in many ways,it has never worked....point dismissed,if it was hard for a powered up xavier to mind control him then emmas hopeless
(it doesn't matter how strong and mad Hulk is, he still has one) yeah but anger flushes it out
We aren't talking controlling him we are talking immobilizing/killing him, which I believe Xaviar if he wanted to could fairly easily accomplish.
Agree with Debel and I can only smile at the result Xaviar would get if he tryed it
Call me Charlotte. And repowered Xavier has "forgotten" many stuff about sophisticated TP...but come on- X-Men have arguably the best "mental surgeon" living in their lines...who surprisingly forgets about overloading Hulk nervous system with raw psionic energy (at its strongest Emma's "psionic lightning" was able to destroy a building, less powerful strike left M (invulnerable to mind-controlling and pretty much physically invulnerable) paralysed for some time necessary to teach arrogant girl the lesson) or desynchronising synapses in his brain/messing with his subconsciousness (she rendered Wolverine's "animal berserker instincts" useless by doing that, since all instincts and all rage in the wiorld means dick when your body can't follow the commands from its brain). Also some sophisticated ways of manipulating person's nervous system\subsonsciousness include giving him\her orgasm\euphoria, which is also nothing new to Emma.
I repeat- she's one of the best "mental surgeons" ever and after Charles' loss of some skill arguably the best one. She lacks raw power for attacks, but compensates that with almost unparalleled skills. She's like an agile skilled fencer with a thin rapier when most other telepaths in high tier often prefer to solve their problems like big brawlers with crowbars.
It cannot be healed since there's no proper damage done to the boddy tissue, it cannot be dealt with with the help of rage...
But if you want Hulk win, then of course you'll be writing some simplier stuff. Like Emma trying to fight Hulk hand-to-hand in her diamond form (though he can't damage her in that form, just BFR).
yeah you can say that and i can say the exact opposite because its opinion,when hulks being written to potential bobby has no chance(dont know what bobbys potential is but hulks is infinite strength,durability and stamina not to mention an insane healing factor,im tellin you people like emma and bobby are useless against the hulk and considering xavier couldnt control hulk then what makes you think he could kill him,hulks willpower is insane and he has like a billion different personalities good luck
What would happen in your openion Charlotte if we just for a moment takes it back to old school Xaviar preforming this feat against Hulk instead of Emma. If I remember correctly he rebelled a sentinal with pure psychic energy.
And you are absolutely right there are so many methods for the "heroes" to win if they want to.
I believe one has already mentioned how Ice-man would defeat WWH without seemingly any kind of problems, and Ice-man has the the ability to get the exact same levels at durability strenght and endurance as WWH since his control of water and so on can be used to greatly amplify his stats.
He isn't gonna control him which I have stated one time already, Charlotte has already mentioned a way to immobilise WWH without getting near his brain and a healing factor isn't gonna help els she couldn't have preformed that feat against Wolverine.
Willpower helps to deal with mind control and behavioral modification, not with pinpointing some areas of brain with psionic energy which has nothing to do with "strong personality".
Emma easily managed to stun with psionic lighting a person who gave her one hell of psionic feedback when she tried to mindcontrol\mindprobe her.
Lunatik beat the watcher, watcher is overrated imo. That logic doesn't work anyways. Wolverine was able to cut Thanos, Wolverine >> Thanos?
Hulk can't K.O Bobby, he can crush him and then Bobby can kill him. If Bobby was able to take care of Fuego, I doubt Hulk is going to be any problem.
Does Hulk have any liquid in his brain? If he does, Iceman can easily freeze it. Doesn't matter how thick Hulk's skull is because Iceman doesn't have to force his hand through his head in order to freeze the water. He hardly needs to touch him.
Yeah, anger removes his need for a nervous system. Logic
You think that Xavier tried to control the Hulk? Why would he want to do that? Xavier tried to read his mind and he accomplished it. Task completed. Xavier never stated that he attempted to injure The Hulk.
Xavier, Emma and a couple of others are probably the most resistant to telepathic control there is. That does NOT grant them immunity to telepathic attacks. Just like how Hulk isn't immune to mental bolts. He's immune to mind control, like 20% of the marvel verse.
He has shown resistance to mental control in the future, but he has obviously been injured by mental bolts. Why would that change? Getting angrier makes him harder to control, he's still as easy to mind blast.
Like most of us saw, those of us who read the old New x-men. Me and Debel. We saw that Emma can do quite a lot with her telepathy, like stop people from feeling pain, enhance the pain they're feeling a hundredfold and press certain buttons/induce certain reactions within the human body. Think of it as ranged pheromone control.
Hulk has a body and is affected in the same way that anyone else is. It works just as easily on class 1000 as it does on a class 10.
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