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Question;

Is Superman strength strictly physical. It has been mentioned many times on the forum that there has to be a TK element to or he would not be able to perform strength feats without stuff crumbling under its own weight.

If this is the case then any number of guys are physically stronger. Certainly the Hulk's strength is based physically.


the TK is only used to hold the object together. he still would be able to retain his strength if the TK was removed.

Speaking of TK, does anyone know if SuperBoy Prime strength is derived from TK?

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Speaking of TK, does anyone know if SuperBoy Prime strength is derived from TK?
Not that I know of. confused


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Not that I know of. confused

Same here, but ive been hearing that it was around the forum, but that was a while ago.

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There is a limit to how much a human being can be enraged, how much they can hate ect. it's the reason why the wish machine created Omega. the Hulk's strength is tied to his HUMAN emotions. They have a limit, thus he does. the Hulk can't pull a galaxy no matter how pissed he gets.


Stop compare hulk's emotions with human's emotions hulk is not an human, he is a monster with limitless power. Can human lift, jump or heal like hulk?

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the TK is only used to hold the object together. he still would be able to retain his strength if the TK was removed.

Speaking of TK, does anyone know if SuperBoy Prime strength is derived from TK?



Thanks for clarification. Still I'm not sure where physical strength stops and where TK takes over. I've seen scans of Superman pulling the moon. Can any of that be attributed to physical strength? huh

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Stop compare hulk's emotions with human's emotions hulk is not an human, he is a monster with limitless power. Can human lift, jump or heal like hulk?


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OMEGA, easily the strongest being ever in comics history.


No.
Yes, he is well beyond Superman, but cosmic beings don't use much of a pure strength in a battle, but would overpower Omega also in a pure strength fight, if they would want to it.
Do you really believe he is physically stronger than let's say Living Tribunal?

So, forget about strongest n comic history, especially forget about, easily strongest in comic history? I mean, where do you get such quotes?

I think Hulk could eventually overpower him in strength.
PC Darkseid was easily stronger than PC Superman. So with that, also Yuga Khan should be easily stronger.
There are more that were already mentioned in this thread.


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No.
Yes, he is well beyond Superman, but cosmic beings don't use much of a pure strength in a battle, but would overpower Omega also in a pure strength fight, if they would want to it.
Do you really believe he is physically stronger than let's say Living Tribunal?

So, forget about strongest n comic history, especially forget about, easily strongest in comic history? I mean, where do you get such quotes?

I think Hulk could eventually overpower him in strength.
PC Darkseid was easily stronger than PC Superman. So with that, also Yuga Khan should be easily stronger.
There are more that were already mentioned in this thread.


UM, THis thread is about pure physical strength. Have you read the story with OMEGA from Legion? YOu thinki the Hulk could out power OMEGA? I just know now you know not of what you speak.


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YOu thinki the Hulk could out power OMEGA?


I didn't mean Hulk could overpower Omega.
I meant that I think he could eventually maybe overpower Superman in a pure strength.

This thread is about pure physical strength. Still, Omega is not the strongest in a pure physical strength in a comic history, especially not easily the strongest. I wonder, where did you get that?

I asked you, do you really think that Living Tribunal, Spectre and such, wouldn't be able to overpower Omega in a pure physical strength?


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I didn't mean Hulk could overpower Omega.
I meant that I think he could eventually maybe overpower Superman in a pure strength.

This thread is about pure physical strength. Still, Omega is not the strongest in a pure physical strength in a comic history, especially not easily the strongest. I wonder, where did you get that?

I asked you, do you really think that Living Tribunal, Spectre and such, wouldn't be able to overpower Omega in a pure physical strength?


Beings Like The Spectre and The LT don't use physical stength as they are not physical beings. They are abstracts. Thus they dont' count in this thread. The thread starter even stated no cosmic beings and such. Thus Omega would be the strongest being in comics history, under the given thread stipulations.


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Thus Omega would be the strongest being in comics history, under the given thread stipulations.


I could agree with that.
Otherwise, is Living Tribunal really an abstract being?


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I could agree with that.
Otherwise, is Living Tribunal really an abstract being?


Yes. He's The Ultimate Judgement. He is the One above all's embodiment of balance.


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I don't follow He-Man..

But has he ever towed a dozen or so planets behind him, with ease? confused

No but He-Man doesn't really make it into space as much as Supes, he lacks the flight necessary for such a feat, and it's not as if there's ever been the need for him to do so. He-Man's powers are similar to the Hulk, except that instead of him having to get angry for his strength to increase he just has to NEED his strength to increase.


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No but He-Man doesn't really make it into space as much as Supes, he lacks the flight necessary for such a feat, and it's not as if there's ever been the need for him to do so. He-Man's powers are similar to the Hulk, except that instead of him having to get angry for his strength to increase he just has to NEED his strength to increase.
So the principle for his strength to be greater is there, but not the actual feats?


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So the principle for his strength to be greater is there, but not the actual feats?

Pretty much. Matching strength with Pre Crisis Supes is about his best strength feat overall. But at least IN THEORY, He-Man should always be a little bit stronger in a no PIS setting.


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Pretty much. Matching strength with Pre Crisis Supes is about his best strength feat overall. But at least IN THEORY, He-Man should always be a little bit stronger in a no PIS setting.
Cool beans.

I'm quite He-Man illiterate, so I thought I'd ask. smile


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Cool beans.

I'm quite He-Man illiterate, so I thought I'd ask. smile

You should check out the respect thread Digi and I made for him if you're really curious. He-Man is a weird character to deal with to tell you the truth, he's sub herald overall but in the realm of pure physical strength he's unbeatable by pretty much ANYONE(abstracts excluded of course).


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There is a limit to how much a human being can be enraged, how much they can hate ect. it's the reason why the wish machine created Omega. the Hulk's strength is tied to his HUMAN emotions. They have a limit, thus he does. the Hulk can't pull a galaxy no matter how pissed he gets.

very good point

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LMAO. laughing laughing laughing laughing
What is so funny about that,If you really think Hulk cant get stronger cause he cant get angrier then I implore you to provide evidence.And by evidence, I mean something other than him get kod or overpowered as soon as he turned into the hulk or where certain stipulations are involved.

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very good point
Its a horrible and unsubstantiated point.

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