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Basically cosign with everything Grok's said.

Black Bolt's powers extend so far beyond the scream, and Hulk's never shown to be capable of healing from molecular manipulation on the level of what Black Bolt can do.

So I take it that Black Bolt can do the same to Thanos as well?

Sep 4th, 2007 03:48 AM

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So I take it that Black Bolt can do the same to Thanos as well?

And, pray tell, why would that be at all relevant?

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Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
And, pray tell, why would that be at all relevant?

Well, if he could do it to the Hulk that easy, I am sure it would work on anyone with a physical body right?

Sep 4th, 2007 04:00 AM

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Well, if he could do it to the Hulk that easy, I am sure it would work on anyone with a physical body right?

Wow.

When matter and energy manipulation on the level of Thanos become a key part of Hulks powerset, lemme know.

Hell, Hulk doesn't even have the durability of Thanos throughout any of his appearances. Perhaps the potential, though he's certainly never reached it.

Otherwise, try to find someone even remotely relevant to compare Hulk to. And no, "having a body" does not qualify.

Kthx.

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Wow.

When matter and energy manipulation on the level of Thanos become a key part of Hulks powerset, lemme know.

Hell, Hulk doesn't even have the durability of Thanos throughout any of his appearances. Perhaps the potential, though he's certainly never reached it.

Otherwise, try to find someone even remotely relevant to compare Hulk to. And no, "having a body" does not qualify.

Kthx.

The whole point of this, is that WWH is a NEW HULK, and not like the other Hulks. Get IT???

So, it's not far fetch for this one to beat the living hell out of BB, because he ain't the same guy as before.

This is a Hulk that can survive BB's attacks, and might have the same level as durability as someone like Thanos.

But no, it's PIS if this "NEW" Hulk gets to those levels.

My whole point, is that we are seeing a new character here, so he might be on levels that some don't want to admit.

Sep 4th, 2007 04:14 AM

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As mentioned, Thanos has an eternal physiology and possesses innate molecular control over his body. He has a reason to be able to resist matter manipulation. As does the Surfer. As does Superman.

The Hulk, however, does not.

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As mentioned, Thanos has an eternal physiology and possesses innate molecular control over his body. He has a reason to be able to resist matter manipulation. As does the Surfer. As does Superman.

The Hulk, however, does not.

Superman has innate molecular control over his body?

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Superman has innate molecular control over his body?

No, he has a reason to be able to resist matter manipulation.

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No, he has a reason to be able to resist matter manipulation.

Such as?

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Such as?

It has, on panel, been attempted and failed to work before?

Something that the Hulk cannot boast.

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It has, on panel, been attempted and failed to work before?

Thats a feat not a reason.

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Something that the Hulk cannot boast.

De-evolution ray failed. Glazier wasn't able to transform him into glass. Fun stuff.

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Feats can suffice as reasons when discussing characters who have demonstrated unexplainable or unrealistic powers/abilities. Why can he do it? Because he has in the past.

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Feats can suffice as reasons when discussing characters who have demonstrated unexplainable or unrealistic powers/abilities. Why can he do it? Because he has in the past.

Dodging the second half of my post I see

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how come no one has mentioned the Medusa thing again?

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It has, on panel, been attempted and failed to work before?

Something that the Hulk cannot boast.

yea he's also pulled together a spacial distortion with his bare hands, doesn't mean in buy it.... could you state the reason y sups cant be converted

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The whole point of this, is that WWH is a NEW HULK, and not like the other Hulks. Get IT???

So, it's not far fetch for this one to beat the living hell out of BB, because he ain't the same guy as before.

This is a Hulk that can survive BB's attacks, and might have the same level as durability as someone like Thanos.

But no, it's PIS if this "NEW" Hulk gets to those levels.

My whole point, is that we are seeing a new character here, so he might be on levels that some don't want to admit.

Yes.

So?

His durability has gone up. His strength has gone up. Hell, his speed has probably gone up too.

So?

He has no matter manipulation. He doesn't have a completely alien, far more evolved physiology, surrounded by a near impenatrable bio aura that's resisted matter manip on panel. His body wasn't changed by a demi-god to be cosmically glazed.

Do you even understand the concept of matter manipulation?

Sep 4th, 2007 04:33 AM

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yea he's also pulled together a spacial distortion with his bare hands, doesn't mean in buy it.... could you state the reason y sups cant be converted

His bioelectric aura. And Hyper-solar-metabolism.

Same thing that explains the rest of his unexplainable powers.

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He doesn't have a completely alien, far more evolved physiology, surrounded by a near impenatrable bio aura that's resisted matter manip on panel.

Thats true. But he does have an alien, far more evolved physiology that's resisted matter manip on panel.

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how come no one has mentioned the Medusa thing again?

oh dont worry we havent forgotten

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oh dont worry we havent forgotten

good. i better see some damn scannage

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