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Soljer
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
nah, His race makes him already equal to sentry AT least. the fact that he has that ring makes him that much harder to beat. Ok put it this way, Sadam yot has few feats, but if I put him against magneto, who has trillions of feats, what would you say?

I would say that Sodam Yat doesn't have enough feats to justify necessarily giving him a win. I'd say exactly the same as I have here; it's likely, that due to his alleged prowess as a lantern, and his pseudo-kryptonian physique, that he'd beat Magneto.

But, as there is nothing to base that on, it would be too early to say.

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Originally posted by Validus
I've seen John Stewart mind rape multiple Green Lanterns. Doesn't change anything.

All I'm saying is that being a Daxamite or whatever race you feel like using doesn't change the fact that said character is a normal GL. It's not as if there is a standard race of Lanterns.

And you are missing the point. One reason Wog is rated so high is becuz he is not only a lantern, and a damned good one, But he's got that natural super strength and durability. People even noted it as advantage over other lanterns. Now being a daxamite with a ring is an advantage over other lanterns. Hell, One could if they wished, focus all of thier mind on offensive power since getting hurt is highly unlikely.

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Originally posted by Validus

All I'm saying is that being a Daxamite or whatever race you feel like using doesn't change the fact that said character is a normal GL. It's not as if there is a standard race of Lanterns.

GLs are not all equal

let's say 2 GLs are both in a hard fight, one a daxamite and the other a human

both fight till their ring runs outta power...guess what? the human is no longer a GL, but a mere human. The daxamite...oh, he's just superman with no more ring powers.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And you are missing the point. One reason Wog is rated so high is becuz he is not only a lantern, and a damned good one, But he's got that natural super strength and durability. People even noted it as advantage over other lanterns. Now being a daxamite with a ring is an advantage over other lanterns. Hell, One could if they wished, focus all of thier mind on offensive power since getting hurt is highly unlikely.

They are plenty of Lanterns with their own natural powers that range from super strength to sorcery yet all of them would get beat senseless in a fight against Hal Jordan. Skill with the ring matters more than anything.

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GLs are not all equal

let's say 2 GLs are both in a hard fight, one a daxamite and the other a human

both fight till their ring runs outta power...

Um... wouldn't that still make them equal as GL's...

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Originally posted by Master-Borg
GLs are not all equal

You're right and the two best GL's happen to be normal humans. The rest of your post is irrelevant since a human without a ring isn't a GL in the first place.

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Originally posted by Validus
You're right and the two best GL's happen to be normal humans. The rest of your post is irrelevant since a human without a ring isn't a GL in the first place.

a human with a depleted GL Ring is still a GL, no?

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Originally posted by Validus
You're right and the two best GL's happen to be normal humans.

I understand that.

My point was that given equal prowess with a ring, a daxamite GL is more powerful than a human GL.

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Originally posted by Master-Borg
a human with a depleted GL Ring is still a GL, no?

No, he's just a dude with a ring on his finger.

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Oct 26th, 2007 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by Validus
No, he's just a dude with a ring on his finger.

Indeed.

Check out hal jordan after his ring depleted. He didn't even have the colors on anymore - he went back to 'normal' clothes since he was bone dry.

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Originally posted by Master-Borg
I understand that.

My point was that given equal prowess with a ring, a daxamite GL is more powerful than a human GL.

No because if you really got down to it, it's one guy with the power to do anything versus another guy with the power to do anything.

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Originally posted by Validus
No because if you really got down to it, it's one guy with the power to do anything versus another guy with the power to do anything.

you would have a better case if the Ring's power was infinite...unfortunately, its power source is very finite.

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Oct 26th, 2007 05:07 AM

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What Val is saying, is it's the order of power.

The Lantern power eclipses something like race - even powerful races like Daxamites - the same way a factorial dominates a polynomial.

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What Val is saying, is it's the order of power.

The Lantern power eclipses something like race - even powerful races like Daxamites - the same way a factorial dominates a polynomial.

And isn't it actually within the realm of possibility for ANY Lantern actually become a Daximite? I'm pretty sure Hal's done it...

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And isn't it actually within the realm of possibility for ANY Lantern actually become a Daximite? I'm pretty sure Hal's done it...

How sure?

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How sure?

50/50 or so. I seem to remember it coming up in a tourney or something like that...

But now that I think about it, it may have been a Kryptonian instead of a Daximite.

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Originally posted by Soljer
What Val is saying, is it's the order of power.

The Lantern power eclipses something like race - even powerful races like Daxamites - the same way a factorial dominates a polynomial.

I get that

ok, let me use this analogy

assume the mastery of a Ring is power level = 1,000,000,000

assume normal human power = 1

assume a daxamite power = 1000

so a human with ring mastery = 1,000,000,001

whereas a daxamite with ring mastery = 1,000,001,000

in other words, a daxamite GL can fight longer than a human GL with equal skill because once they both deplete their ring's power, the daxamite has his superman physique to fall back on and is able to continue the battle while the human will be killed instantly

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Originally posted by darthgoober
50/50 or so. I seem to remember it coming up in a tourney or something like that...

But now that I think about it, it may have been a Kryptonian instead of a Daximite.

Kryptonian DNA.

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