I got something to point out. She got a win over a enraged superman that even got close to the sun to absorb some of its energy and she almost sliced his head off with her tiara. She is by far a waaaaaay better fighter then him. They almost have comparable speed and comparable strength, giving a small majority to superman. She have shields that could block superman heat vision and she has enough speed to bring the battle up close and personal where she would have the advantage.
Thats why I say that wonderwoman could get a 50/50 over superman. Superman isnt as great as people make him out to be powerwise. The only reason that I would give him a win over top tiers is due to will power. He has super strength and super speed. If thats what make a character a powerhouse then there are a lot of powerhouses out there. You might as well say that mimic is a powerhouse since he is nigh invulnerable, can almost achieve light speed, has superstrength, along with a healing factor, has beast agility, along with super human reflexes and has optic blast. Do I think that mimic is a powerhouse, no but he has a good set of power just like superman does. Now people that I would consider powerhouses are, thor, silver surfer, beta ray bill, nova, martian manhunter, etc... The reason I say this is because they are not just based off of brute force, they have other output of powers that they can rely on. Superman and wonderwoman are powerful beings but they are not what people on the forum make them out to be.
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Which suffered from terrible writing completely inconsistent with the powers Superman was utalizing AND the writer himself has came out and admitted the entire time that Superman was not only still subconsciously holding back BUT fighting the mind control himself (which explains why he was fighting sloppy).
Even then Wonder Woman spent 90% of that fight getting her ass handed to her.
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Wrong
Superman: high 100 tonner
Wonderwoman: high 100 tonner
Namor: 90/100 ton
Iron man: 90/100 ton
WWh: high 100 tonner
Hulk: high 100 tonner
thing: 90/100 ton
colossus: 100 ton
Sasquash: 100 ton
Thor: high 100 tonner
I dont know who ap is, so Im going to leave that alone.
But the scales for reading strength stops at 100 tons. High 100 means that they lift over that weight, which majority of the people on the list can do.
I think many of you in this thread need to actually debate the topic instead of being immature, insulting eachother, and posting juvenile pictures.
With regards to many people, If you feel Superman should win that's fine or if you feel the opposite is true that's alright as well. But actually take the time to legitimately explain why while being respectful to the opposing side. Don't chastise other posters for going against a perceived standard. Listen to what they are saying, and you may learn certain things about a character you never learned before. Maybe, just maybe, the thread may actually be fun to read and post in.
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Would you like for me to post the fight because if anyone had the edge she did and the sad thing about it was that she was holding back. Now you can do one thing for me and put up a scan where this writer said this because if anything that sounds like an excuse and something that you made up to make superman look good. You do know that thats not the only time wonderwoman and superman fought and thats not the only time that she beat him.
Also, since superman was supposidely holding back and he was fighting the mental block (something that you made up again), why did he almost kill batman during that arc. Let me guess, because he was holding back huh.
Wonderwoman got the edge over him, just accept it. The story happened and if it was written the other way around, superman owning wonderwoman, this argument wouldnt be going on. Superman fans always make up excuses for his loses, just like when I posted that fight between him and goku, a lot of people on the forum brought up a stupid argument about the fight being fan based and the writter liked goku more and all other crap and couldnt accept the fact that he got his a** whipped and got treated like a step child. When hulk beat and outfought superman back in the 80's, I recently brought that up and people made excuses for the fight. If its up to fans, no one could beat him.