without prep, apocalypse make short work of doom, after all apocalypse is an amalgam of hulk, martian manhunter, and doom himself(imo) (just written to plague humanity forever, he isn't ALLOWED to win)
As far as I can recall, Apocalypse was defeated when Cyclops "Drew upon the strength of the Grey lineage" which is as PIS as it can get.
And he was killed by the Psimitar after his psychic essence had been separated from Cyclops' body? Another plot weapon.
And recently he was beaten thanks to Pulse further depowering an Apocalypse that had already drained enough blood from himself to fill several huge tanks.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that Doom could take 3 or 4/10, but with no time to prepare for this battle I believe Apocalypse has the power to win the majority, if written properly.
Not really outsmarted just beaten.
A. AOA just attack his and hes defeated
B. BOA Attack him
C. Stryfe loss
Each time hes beaten, he just looses. They have no plan at all. For a prep guy direct physical confrontation should already have a counter. As far as a him being as smart as reed? "Hell No".
Doom usually has access to magic, and his doom bots via his suite.
You mean storm the pyramid. Since when is that a plan. His whole plan during BOA was terrible. His plan with Onslaught was bad as well and didn't work. Hes no where near on an equal field of intellect as Doom who even Thanos acknowledges as a big threat.
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Apocalypse went toe to toe against High Evolutionary, actually got the better of him, schooled him and than you say Apocalypse intelligence is not even comparable to Reed Richards. Everything Richards can comprehend, I don't see why Apocalypse wouldn't. He would.
It's been said Richards cannot close comprehend Galactus technology, Apocalypse has good knowledge of Celestial technology and understands it, what he got. Look what he also made of Hulk (Reed couldn't even came up with something to stop World War Hulk and not even WWH couldn't do to Juggernaut what War Hulk did).
We know Apocalypse isn't close written in all departments as what he is capable and what he has.
Originally, he was the one to conquer and rule the Earth. Remember what Cable said to Thor and others. He said they don't even realize the threat of Apocalypse. Apocalypse made like they never even existed.
And if you remember, genius Kang the Conqueror (Nathaniel Richards) among all other Earth powerful beings, went after Apocalypse (because Apocalypse ruled the Earth) and failed with all his smartness and future technology to get him.
And are Celestials really so much below Galactus?
Don't tell me he can't even compare to Reed. It's the writing that can't compare because of Reed being generally much better written than Apocalypse and also being constant in writing.
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