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Ill, what if the Hulk ate it?


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Ill, what if the Hulk ate it?


Well, Surfer could either reform it, or give it a property so that it's regenerative, so the more Hulk chews/ingests it the more it reforms back to it's original dimensions, or possibly even increases in diameter. Hulk would be perpetually stuck in a 30 foot tall, 30 foot wide, regenerating ball of insanely sticky rubber cement.

It wouldn't kill Hulk, or even hurt him, but it would leave him harmless, useless, and pretty much defenseless. All the strength in the world isn't going to help against a substance that isn't effected by blunt force. The only way for Hulk to get out would be for him to burn off the adhesive or use a solvent, and that's not in his ability set, even with the Gem of Cytorrak. The Gem is essentially redundant in that regard.

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Well said.


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hulk rips norrins head off.


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What if the hulk burrowed?


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What if the hulk burrowed?


Burrowed? Surfer can't create a crater?


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Well, Surfer could either reform it, or give it a property so that it's regenerative, so the more Hulk chews/ingests it the more it reforms back to it's original dimensions, or possibly even increases in diameter. Hulk would be perpetually stuck in a 30 foot tall, 30 foot wide, regenerating ball of insanely sticky rubber cement.

It wouldn't kill Hulk, or even hurt him, but it would leave him harmless, useless, and pretty much defenseless. All the strength in the world isn't going to help against a substance that isn't effected by blunt force. The only way for Hulk to get out would be for him to burn off the adhesive or use a solvent, and that's not in his ability set, even with the Gem of Cytorrak. The Gem is essentially redundant in that regard.

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whoa didn't know juggs could do that. Illadelph I havent read through all the posts but maybe a sonic clap would allow him to break free. Neither blunt of shape just sound to break out of whatever that magical gooeyness you are talking about =D.

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These "energy globules" wouldn't help if the amorphous mass is regenerative.

Also given the 10 yard diameter, and the fact he'd be incased in the blob like a cocoon, he'd still be trapped, as the globules seem to either detonate on impact or are simple projectiles, and the blob would simply reform after they pass though it.

The scan is inconsequential.


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whoa didn't know juggs could do that. Illadelph I havent read through all the posts but maybe a sonic clap would allow him to break free. Neither blunt of shape just sound to break out of whatever that magical gooeyness you are talking about =D.


The mechanics for that aren't really there. How effective would a sonic clap be in the middle of a pool of regenerating rubber cement? Not to mention the fact the substance would be adhering to Hulk's hands making it extremely hard to clap them or cause any mass displacement necessary for the clap to be effective, as well as muffling the sound. It would be like you or I clapping our hands at the bottom of a swimming pool full of pudding, but the pudding is constantly reforming and super adhesive.


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Blob doesn't seem likly to me, if it was the case why not use it agaisnt Thanos or anyone else lower then hulks level of strength.


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In any typical physical confrontation WWH takes the majority.

Other other idea like super bubble imprisonmen and crap like that...go Surfers way for what could be considered a BFR or Stalemate. WWH is unlikely to either escape or be harmed.


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These "energy globules" wouldn't help if the amorphous mass is regenerative.

Also given the 10 yard diameter, and the fact he'd be incased in the blob like a cocoon, he'd still be trapped, as the globules seem to either detonate on impact or are simple projectiles, and the blob would simply reform after they pass though it.

The scan is inconsequential.
uumm,,yeah it will considering that in the scan the field surrounding the juggernaut at least provides him with enough room to let off a thunder clap, further removing the gum/bubble. anyway, neither the hulk or the juggernaut will be totally immobilized by that stuff at all.


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Blob doesn't seem likly to me, if it was the case why not use it agaisnt Thanos or anyone else lower then hulks level of strength.


Because unlike Hulk, Thanos isn't a one-trick pony. Thanos also has matter transmutation and energy manipulation powers that are equal if not more formidable than Surfer's own powers, as well as being physically superior. This method of restraint rather than assault is best used against characters that are simply brutes (Juggernaut, Hulk, Thing, Colossus, etc), and is in line with Surfer's character as a reluctant combatant and pacifist, as well as utilized by Surfer on panel in canon stroies. It's a perfectly logical, and substantiated on-panel, manner of attack.

It's not glamorous or epic, but it's extremely effective.

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Because unlike Hulk, Thanos isn't a one-trick pony. Thanos also has matter transmutation and energy manipulation powers that are equal if not more formidable than Surfer's own powers, as well as being physically superior. This method of restraint rather than assault is best used against characters that are simply brutes (Juggernaut, Hulk, Thing, Colossus, etc), and is in line with Surfer's character as a reluctant combatant and pacifist, as well as utilized by Surfer on panel in canon stroies. It's a perfectly logical, and substantiated on-panel, manner of attack.

It's not glamorous or epic, but it's extremely effective.

Brains over brawn.
unlit the hulk gets so frustrated that he starts to generate gamma radiation....


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uumm,,yeah it will considering that in the scan the field surrounding the juggernaut at least provides him with enough room to let off a thunder clap, further removing the gum/bubble. anyway, neither the hulk or the juggernaut will be totally immobilized by that stuff at all.


Which would still prove ineffective as the blob would simply reform or Surfer could just create another and incase it in a forcefield or metal if necessary, though it's highly unlikely it would be necessary given the sound dampening properties of such a substance and it's amorphous consistency. Surfer could just trap him inside a giant vibranium sphere or spherical forcefield filled with the rubber cement substance, which would make Hulk's situation even worse.

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unlit the hulk gets so frustrated that he starts to generate gamma radiation....


Which Surfer can simply syphon off out-right.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/...98901921ts2.jpg

Not to mention Surfer can render himself intangible or simply phase through any attack that somehow came his way, however unlikely, as all of this is transpiring.

There's no logical reason this version of Hulk would be any threat to Surfer whatsoever.


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Which Surfer can simply syphon off out-right.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/...98901921ts2.jpg


You need to post the whole link. When you copy and pasted it puts the "..." in the URL bar, instead of the rest of the link.


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You need to post the whole link. When you copy and pasted it puts the "..." in the URL bar, instead of the rest of the link.


My apologies:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...lkv22503oj5.jpg

Oh, and just in case it's offered as a counter, no, Surfer doesn't have to be in direct contact to drain a beings energies:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/...98901921ts2.jpg

He can draw them remotely as well.


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