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Gaara vs. Sandman
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Magee
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Sandman can just start hitting Gaara with his own sand, he will get to experience his sand coffin. Sandman controls every bit of sand in his body it's ilogical to think Gaara could easily take control of it. Sandman can just take away all his sand then all it would take is a couple of punches if not one to k.o him, there is nothing Gaara can do.

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and he turn himself into a giant as dense as hell fist and just destroy the shield eaisly


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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Sandman can defeat Gaara with a punch, he will plow right through Gaara's sand shield, lesser force has done it.

Sandman is class 75, which is physically stronger than anyone in Naruto, but can condense his fists to simulate class 100 blows.


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If Sandman can absorb Gaara's sand he is fvcked, Sandman will just get bigger and stronger.

Though I do not think he can take Gaara's personal sand since it is so linked to his chakra, it literally is his chakra kinda.

And a punch from Sandman won't KO Gaara, it will kill him.


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You forget jaxx he doesnt need to absorb Gaaras sand because he's fighting on a beach


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I know, but I am just saying he probably cannot absorb Gaara's personal sand.


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I would just like to add that in the movies, Sandman was bringing his fist down on spidey three times and he didn't die. So enough with the whole "Sandman kills Gaara with one ounch" crap. It's getting annoying now.

Also, Gaara has his sand shield. That thing has been protecting Gaara from a lot of blows (especially to the head). If everyones favorite friendly neighborhood superhero can take a few big punches from Sandman, so can Gaara.

I ain't exactly saying who will win here, I just wanted add what I know.


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Bringing up that failure of a movie really doesn't work even if the movie wasn't so terrible...

Then there is the fact Spidey > Gaara is speed, and ability to dodge. Gaara's slow compared to any Narutoverse Ninja. It's his sand that is so fast. He's never had to worry about speed.


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Originally posted by Nemesis X
I would just like to add that in the movies, Sandman was bringing his fist down on spidey three times and he didn't die. So enough with the whole "Sandman kills Gaara with one ounch" crap. It's getting annoying now.

Also, Gaara has his sand shield. That thing has been protecting Gaara from a lot of blows (especially to the head). If everyones favorite friendly neighborhood superhero can take a few big punches from Sandman, so can Gaara.

I ain't exactly saying who will win here, I just wanted add what I know.
First of all, movies aren't canon, movie Sandman did not have the feats of comics. He did not seem as strong.

Besides, Spiderman has shown to be stronger and more physically durable than Gaara, without the sand shield and sand armor, he is pretty defenseless when it comes to taking damage, when the Chidori hit him he was screaming in pain and agony.

Sandman demolishes Gaara.


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Ahh give Gaara a break about the screaming in pain...It's the second time he ever bled and like the third time in 12 years to ever feel physical pain. Besides he does have the sand shield and armor along with replacement. So he'll be able to last for more than one hit I'd think.


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Originally posted by Kento
Ahh give Gaara a break about the screaming in pain...It's the second time he ever bled and like the third time in 12 years to ever feel physical pain. Besides he does have the sand shield and armor along with replacement. So he'll be able to last for more than one hit I'd think.
The sand armor was cracked by Rock Lee. Sandman hits like...at least 30 times harder than Rock Lee. The shield was also cracked by Lee.


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The armor was cracked by Lee..the shield wasn't. Lee punched faster than the sand could block but not fast enough to hit Gaara before he was stopped. And still Gaara's got stronger shields than what he was using against Lee. That was just normal sand defense. He's shown thicker ones. Against the grass ninja, against Sasuke, against Kimimaro, and against Deidara. Also replacement will keep him alive for a while. Not saying he can win..just that he's not going to be killed in the first attack.


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Okay about Lee breaking the sand shield and armor, Lee did that when he was in hyper mode and that increased his strength and speed that made the sand armor break. An unhyper moded Lee couldn't destroy his sand armor.


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Okay about Lee breaking the sand shield and armor, Lee did that when he was in hyper mode and that increased his strength and speed that made the sand armor break. An unhyper moded Lee couldn't destroy his sand armor.

So? Sandman hits harder either way.


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Originally posted by Kento
The armor was cracked by Lee..the shield wasn't. Lee punched faster than the sand could block but not fast enough to hit Gaara before he was stopped. And still Gaara's got stronger shields than what he was using against Lee. That was just normal sand defense. He's shown thicker ones. Against the grass ninja, against Sasuke, against Kimimaro, and against Deidara. Also replacement will keep him alive for a while. Not saying he can win..just that he's not going to be killed in the first attack.
Look at the scan I posted first page. Lee broke through the sand shield slightly.

And the sand armor is stronger than the shield.

The one against the grass shield WAS his normal shield.

Sasuke also went right through that shield with Chidori, did he not? One attack will break through the shield, the next attack will break Gaara.

And all those stronger shields have to be formed by gathering layers of sand around him, Sandman simply by standing in sand will be absorbing it if he wants.

When I said one punch, I meant all it would take it one punch to kill Gaara.


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Okay about Lee breaking the sand shield and armor, Lee did that when he was in hyper mode and that increased his strength and speed that made the sand armor break. An unhyper moded Lee couldn't destroy his sand armor.
Lee broke the shield just by removing the weights. I already posted the damn scans.

And he cut the armor without being hyper too.

Sandman is MUCH stronger than Lee.


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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Look at the scan I posted first page. Lee broke through the sand shield slightly.

And the sand armor is stronger than the shield.

The one against the grass shield WAS his normal shield.

Sasuke also went right through that shield with Chidori, did he not? One attack will break through the shield, the next attack will break Gaara.

And all those stronger shields have to be formed by gathering layers of sand around him, Sandman simply by standing in sand will be absorbing it if he wants.

When I said one punch, I meant all it would take it one punch to kill Gaara.
Lee was moving faster than Gaara's sand. The sand was able to stop his attacks before they hit Gaara but not block them. If he was able to punch through the sand he'd have hit Gaara with the first attack.

The normal shield is what he used against Lee...If I recall what he used against the grass ninja was thicker. As for Chidori. Not only does it turn the persons hand into a knife it's back by the speed of the user. Neither have anything to do with Sandman punching it. And Gaara's sand is ground and Chidori is lightning. Lightning beats ground.
Also Gaara can make those shields faster than Sandman can attack. They may be regular sand but Sandman isn't going to suddenly absorb the sand that was used while while he's in the midst of punching. Maybe after he hits it but by then Gaara would have stopped the hit.

Sandman is going to have to work for that punch though assuming one punch would kill him. I think it would take at least two if he's actually able to kill Gaara with a hit. One to hurt him and destroy the armor and the second to kill.


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[QUOTE=11012133]Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
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Gaara's sand shielded the entire village from an explosion, sure, but you forgot to add the fact that Gaara has to use up ALOT of his chakra to do it.


Irrelevant because A) Sandman's attacks are nowhere near on the level of a city destroying bomb. And B) The sand was also spread thin across the entire blast radius,and still did not break. Logic dictates that anything spread over a long distance will have a weaker integrity then something that is not spread thin but is concentrated. Gaara will not have to spread his sand defense nearly that far apart to defend himself against Sandman's punches. That being the case, if his shield was concentrated it should be able to easily absorb the force of his punches.


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Also, that isn't his normal shield which comes to his aid,


Which doesn't really matter because he can enact the shield incredibly fast, and he won't need a shield that strong to protect himself from his blows since Sandman's blows aren't as strong as a bomb that size. He wouldn'tneed to use nearly a much chakra.


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And bullcrap, there was no Mushroom Cloud, hell, the explosion wasn't even near as big as the whole village. Unless that village is really small.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/249/12-13/


You're right. All I had remembered was that there was a big ass explosion.


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3. So because Gaara can control inanimate sand with no will or control over itself, Gaara can control living sand with total control over its own body and any sand he touches? Fail logic is fail. Shit, why don't I just assume that Gaara's sand will be absorbed by Sandman while I am at it.


Sandman controls his sand in the same manner, does he not? erm I've never seen Sandman's sand act on it's own will. He takes inanimate sand and manipulates it around him to do various things. Not sure about that exactly though. Irregardless, can you prove that Sandman can resist a chakra fueled attack on his control of the sand? It is essentially his supernatural control versus Gaara's.


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If there is alot of sand around in this fight, Sandman grows really really big and swipes him down.


This is assuming that A) Sandman gets to all of that sand before Gaara takes control of his share. B) Sandman can build himself up that high and still function normally. You'd have to provide proof for that, as he's fought on a beach before and never done that. C) Gaara doesn't just float higher up or (For the lulz) He decides to just float over the water. lolZ.

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Not sure if he did this in the comics, but in the movie he can fly.


You and I have been over this before, man.

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And besides...What is Gaara gonna do from up there? Run away?


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And another possibility: Is there any reason to think that Gaara can not control sand that is wet? If there isn't I don't see why he can't just use the equivelent of a sand avalanche that's made entire out of sand from the water. It'd essentially be a tsunami of wet sand which would in turn weaken Sandman's sand composition and he'd turn into mud... and we've all seen what happens when he turns into mud.


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Sandman controls his sand in the same manner, does he not? erm I've never seen Sandman's sand act on it's own will. He takes inanimate sand and manipulates it around him to do various things. Not sure about that exactly though. Irregardless, can you prove that Sandman can resist a chakra fueled attack on his control of the sand? It is essentially his supernatural control versus Gaara's.

You are basically saying that Sandman will be controlled by Gaara? I don't see why, in terms of control i'd have to think that being made of sand>Controlling sand. Sandman can integrate sand into himself and it essentially becomes a part of him. I mean, could Gaara take control of Shukaku (if for some odd reason they fought)? I'd have to think that Shukaku's control of his own sand would supersede any outside control from a sand-user, and it seems the same with Sandman.


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I would just like to add that in the movies, Sandman was bringing his fist down on spidey three times and he didn't die. So enough with the whole "Sandman kills Gaara with one ounch" crap. It's getting annoying now.

Also, Gaara has his sand shield. That thing has been protecting Gaara from a lot of blows (especially to the head). If everyones favorite friendly neighborhood superhero can take a few big punches from Sandman, so can Gaara.

I ain't exactly saying who will win here, I just wanted add what I know.


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