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They really don't except maybe for the Flash... he is the exception, then again he's a ground fighter, so you're right no one in DC fights like DBZ characters do.


Flash,Supes and WW.


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BRb is no where near as fast or skilled As wondy. And his hammer may wreck planets. But Wondy's bracers deflect the power of stars and Entire Pantheons. I'd say his hammer is not a problem. Then that leaves her speed and skill and strength and durability AND LASSO against his Strength, durability and Skill. I can't see how he can wreck someone he will have a hard time hitting, let alone actually out fighting given her speed and skill.



NOOOOOOO not the lassooooooooooo

i hate that damm rope!


BRB for the majority but i think wondy is being underestimated here.


I hate to say this casue i hate the magic lasso, it should NOT be given to a mere mortal. If wondy is faster then you and she wants to use the lasso your done. Unless the person she lasso's has some sorta immunity to her lasso.


The thing is she rarely uses her lasso casue if she did shed win 99.99999999% of her fights.

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She doesn't what?
Vs. The Shattered God. Abstract being.


Launching Superfast attacks


Moving so fast that she's causing Multiple images while she fights Several of the QOF's wonder Woman.
I never said she couldn't move fast, and in the first one, she's not fighting...

A couple other instances doesn't prove she normally fights like QS, or Flash. Sure she uses some speed sometimes, but not enough to start comparing her fighting style to Flash.

As well as stuff like fighting multiple opponents means she has to fight extremely fast or get destroyed. The motivation for moving fast like that against Beta isn't there.


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Prove these statements with quantifiable speed feats and show your math please or GTFO.

And BRB for a majority, 6-7/10.


How about this, show me the most hit that wonder woman has done on anyone during a fight and I'll use dragonball at there weakest that would basically outdue that punching speed.

Im going to use tien during his teenage years. He hit yamcha 47 times in a second, show me wonder woman trumping that or even getting close to that and this was a tien that was holding back and wasnt giving it his all.


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Flash,Supes and WW.


No they dont.


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I never said she couldn't move fast, and in the first one, she's not fighting...

A couple other instances doesn't prove she normally fights like QS, or Flash. Sure she uses some speed sometimes, but not enough to start comparing her fighting style to Flash.

As well as stuff like fighting multiple opponents means she has to fight extremely fast or get destroyed. The motivation for moving fast like that against Beta isn't there.

The first scan is fighting. She's fighting off the shattered God. the Universal Level abstract being. She's actually repelling parts of his body trying to find a new vessel in trevor.

And fighting BRB is motivation to use speed. She uses it against Amazo and other uber beings. DS. etc.


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Why in the shit is Dragon Ball brought up again?


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I can't draw on specific instances..but Im very sorry...WW wins this!! Not easy at all..just..yea..she does. That lasso..that strength now..Thor takes her one on one...but BRB..no. Now I know BRB beat Thor..but Thor was in a huge rut...even in his books at the time. He had to deal with being a frog not too far before that..and that would shake all confidence. But if BRB was the "planet buster" ( and yes he has done it but lets not get crazy ) but it would have been BRB vs Surtur...and frankly it wasnt. Theres not many Marvel characters that could give Supes a run for his money...frankly BRB is one of them...BUT WW has put Supes in his place a few times. F*** super speed..she's just a damn hard ass to beat..shes cold blooded..strong fast cunning..ya name it. It would be a fight worthy of a cpl issues to be sure.
And lets keep DBZ out of this...manga has no place in american comics..and btw one punch from supes is equal too 100 from any character on DBZ ( ok..pre crisis or post crisis..that does make a difference lol )

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The first scan is fighting. She's fighting off the shattered God. the Universal Level abstract being. She's actually repelling parts of his body trying to find a new vessel in trevor.

And fighting BRB is motivation to use speed. She uses it against Amazo and other uber beings. DS. etc.
She's holding off pieces of his body... That's not a fighting scenario.

Amazo was so far above WW (and not to mention... Amazo), she had to try different tactics... but if you insist, BRB is so far above WW I can see it happening. smile

On average she does not use the type of speed being applied here, or even close. Rare instances are not the normal. Circumstances don't make it applicable to everything. CIS is on the forum, if I'm correct after all.

She might win, she might lose, but I don't see her fighting Flash-esque from the word go, unless she has no other option.


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She's holding off pieces of his body... That's not a fighting scenario.

Amazo was so far above WW (and not to mention... Amazo), she had to try different tactics... but if you insist, BRB is so far above WW I can see it happening. smile

On average she does not use the type of speed being applied here, or even close. Rare instances are not the normal. Circumstances don't make it applicable to everything. CIS is on the forum, if I'm correct after all.

She might win, she might lose, but I don't see her fighting Flash-esque from the word go, unless she has no other option.

The point that she has the ability to move so fast as to actually stop the shattered God says alot about her skill and speed.

Now Wondy has used the lasso on people weaker than her. I see no reason why she wouldn't want to end this peacefully and just wrap Bill up so she doesn't have to fight. That is, in her character.


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The point that she has the ability to move so fast as to actually stop the shattered God says alot about her skill and speed.

Now Wondy has used the lasso on people weaker than her. I see no reason why she wouldn't want to end this peacefully and just wrap Bill up so she doesn't have to fight. That is, in her character.

I never said it didn't. You take the CIS off of WW, and she would be an engine of destruction.

May-haps, but I was only addressing the Flash comparisons.
Although, Bill is pretty 'pure'. Would the lasso be able to hold him?


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I never said it didn't. You take the CIS off of WW, and she would be an engine of destruction.

May-haps, but I was only addressing the Flash comparisons.
Although, Bill is pretty 'pure'. Would the lasso be able to hold him?

The lasso can work if she commands something. She has to command something or ask a question. Like Show me your form without the hammer or something like that. But I'm more of the type to think that she uses the lasso to bind. The problem with wondy, is she does purposely lower down her abilities to get in a good fight. Her, Thor, and Orion all have this problem.


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Why in the shit is Dragon Ball brought up again?


To illustrate the combat h2h speed for characters like QS,Supes,Flash and to a lesser degree WW.


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To illustrate the combat h2h speed for characters like QS,Supes,Flash and to a lesser degree WW.


You need to find another anime character then because neither of the above fight anywhere near the speed of a dragonball character. Again show me the most punches wonder woman has done on someone. Tien as a teenager punched yamcha 47 times in one second and this was a tien that was holding back.

Whats the most that wonderwoman has punched someone.


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You need to find another anime character then because neither of the above fight anywhere near the speed of a dragonball character. Again show me the most punches wonder woman has done on someone. Tien as a teenager punched yamcha 47 times in one second and this was a tien that was holding back.

Whats the most that wonderwoman has punched someone.

Does it matter? We know that she can move her hands far faster than light. Far far faster. And propel her body in all different directions at the same time. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out.


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Wait, has there ever been an instance where it was said on panel she can move FTL, or are you making an assumption off of an art style?


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Does it matter? We know that she can move her hands far faster than light. Far far faster. And propel her body in all different directions at the same time. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out.


To figure out what scan are you coming up with the fact that she can move her hands at light speed. confused

Or even the speed of sound.

I agree with you, she is fast but again she is nowhere close to fighting on dbz levels unless you can show me her punching someone 47 times in a second which is something tien did as a child.


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Wait, has there ever been an instance where it was said on panel she can move FTL, or are you making an assumption off of an art style?

Shattered God's body is spread all over the Universe. He's literally pulling himself from every corner of the universe in an omnidirectional pattern in a manner of seconds. How fast do you think his star form parts are traveling to make it to him that fast? How fast do you think Wondy had to move in order to block everysingle one of those shards?


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Bill wins, WW will only have glancing blows.


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