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Who's stronger: Captain America or Wolverine?
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Dum Dum Dugan
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The one where Cap was pushing Logan's arms down while at the same time holding Logans hands in position to cut him.

Thats not a feat...........he got Logan into that posotion due to leverage , a running start and surprizing wolverine.

Nothing in that scan shows superior strength at best it show roughly equal strength.


but of courses since it wolverine you will ignore the reasoning and simply assume siome how that shows capt as stronger when it doesent.

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I seen Wolverine carry Cyclops up a wall with his teeth, this was when he loss his adamantium though, and also him and Cable were climbing a mountain and when they reached the 1st ledge cable one armed Logan up to the ledge. When they reached the 2nd ledge Logan lifted Cable up, holding him over the ledge with arms extended, then he thru him on the ground. Phalanx storyline I believe.


Bone Claw Wolverine (even animalistic version) couldn't lift as much as the adamantium version. It makes a feat look better, not worse.


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Captain America could lift heavier (slightly) weight

Logan could lift a weight longer than Captain America


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.........pleases I love how all theses people say capt, but yet provide no evidence.

We have feats of wolverine strength presented, but none of capts.


Oh and Berserker Wolverine strength>>>>Capts.

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capt has SSS which enhanced his strength


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.........pleases I love how all theses people say capt, but yet provide no evidence.

We have feats of wolverine strength presented, but none of capts.


Oh and Berserker Wolverine strength>>>>Capts.


Yep. More adrenalin = more strength.


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capt has SSS which enhanced his strength


Wolverine has HF and adamantium skeleton.


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capt has SSS which enhanced his strength

to peak human levels...........Logan healing factor makes his body able to lift superhuman weights, plus on top of that his muscles chemicals were made inhumanly denses.

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Cap is stronger when it comes to physical strength.
period.

Wolverine although posessing enhanced physical strength...is just a step behind Cap when it come to power.

lighten Wolverine up from having to carry around adamantium on his skeleton and Wolverine should be stronger theoretically.


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Cap is stronger when it comes to physical strength.
period.

Wolverine although posessing enhanced physical strength...is just a step behind Cap when it come to power.

lighten Wolverine up from having to carry around adamantium on his skeleton and Wolverine should be stronger theoretically.

No he not. Nor have you presented any evidences which suggests this.


Nope


........that does not even make senses. The heavier his skeleton the more muscles which would develope. Not to mention his frame would have no limitations as capts would.



oh and Berserker Wolverine is stronger then Capt with out a doubt

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Did anyone see the scans I provided? Wolverine is repeatedly shown capable of breaking wraps of chain, and "unbreakable chains". I don't know how much it would take to break the chains he broke, but I do know it's a heck of a lot more then 1 or 2 ton strength. I have never seen Cap capable of such things, and until I do Wolverine is definitely stronger in my book.

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Check out the respect forum... For cap.
He lifted big bertha overhead and tossed her
Broke steel chains with his bare hands
Broke down a steel door
Braced an entire skyskaper that fell on him after the rhino demolished it...
...
Has actually hurt highly durable guys like major hulk etc
Destroyed a secondary adamantium ultron solo

And cap is not just peak human. Also the manyosses his shield with the strngth to stop dead a semi truck. Outpace and hit a missile already in motion

And in civil war when he died he had strength dampeners on and still was fast Enough to push a man out of the way of a sniper.


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Check out the respect forum... For cap.
He lifted big bertha overhead and tossed her
Broke steel chains with his bare hands
Broke down a steel door
Braced an entire skyskaper that fell on him after the rhino demolished it...
...
Has actually hurt highly durable guys like major hulk etc
Destroyed a secondary adamantium ultron solo

And cap is not just peak human. Also the manyosses his shield with the strngth to stop dead a semi truck. Outpace and hit a missile already in motion

And in civil war when he died he had strength dampeners on and still was fast Enough to push a man out of the way of a sniper.

yea and are theses suposes to be better then feats wolverine has done?

also it was not an entire biulidng it was some of the rubble, though very impressive you giving him to much credit there.

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Errr the natation says it's the entire skyskaper... Not cap speaking. So guess what. It's not just "some rubble"


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No he not. Nor have you presented any evidences which suggests this.


Nope


........that does not even make senses. The heavier his skeleton the more muscles which would develope. Not to mention his frame would have no limitations as capts would.



oh and Berserker Wolverine is stronger then Capt with out a doubt


Captain America has lots of strength feats placing him above that of Wolverine...most of this is based on previous clashes between the two. Check Cap's respect thread for plenty of evidence.

What you overlook is that Logan is constantly supporting the weight of adamantium while its laced to his bones....without it he is lighter and stronger as he is no longer supporting its weight in addition to his own.

Try lifting something heavy, then try lifting it with 20 pound weights on each arm. This is pretty much self explanitory.


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Errr the natation says it's the entire skyskaper... Not cap speaking. So guess what. It's not just "some rubble"

really lets see this.



also would not that be pis? I mean biuldigns weights 100 of tons..........so that be pritty pointles to bring up a feat of his that clearly pis.

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Captain America has lots of strength feats placing him above that of Wolverine...most of this is based on previous clashes between the two.

No he doesent. You shown zero evdiences. all you been doing is talkign out your ass.

that bull shit. For starter in one of there prevous clashes wolverine held capt down on the ground........ pleases don't straight up lie now.

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What you overlook is that Logan is constantly supporting the weight of adamantium while its laced to his bones....without it he is lighter and stronger as he is no longer supporting its weight in addition to his own.T
ry lifting something heavy, then try lifting it with 20 pound weights on each arm. This is pretty much self explanitory.


Thats not the same. Your examples fualty. Logan had it in for 30 years or so. After eyars your body becomes accustomed to it and strengthens. Your example is not the same becuases it not like you were ing the 20 pounds with in your body for years.

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Thats not the same. Your examples fualty. Logan had it in for 30 years or so. After eyars your body becomes accustomed to it and strengthens. Your example is not the same becuases it not like you were ing the 20 pounds with in your body for years.


Wrong. it's the same.

Logan without the skeleton: Logan weighs 195 lbs.
Logan with the skeleton: Logan's at 300lbs.
For only an enhanced human, its going to take a toll.

Although Logan has adjusted to the adamantium laced skeleton, he always surely be both physically stronger, much lighter and faster without it. Why? Because he has adjusted to the weight of it. Once removed he no longer has it weighing him down, and in addition...his body is used to carrying it.

Minus the skeleton, he would be capable of better strength AND speed feats. This is undenyable fact.

There is already evidence of an adamantium laced Wolverine being overpowered by Captain American physically, in addition to Cap having the better strength feats.


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Wrong. it's the same.

Although Logan has adjusted to the adamantium laced skeleton, he always surely be both physically stronger and fasterwithout it. Why? Because he has adjusted to the weight of it. Once removed he no longer has it weighing him down, and in addition...his body is used to carrying it.

Minus the skeleton, he would be capable of better strength AND speed feats. This is undenyable fact.

speed yes, not strength. His natural bones can no withstand the weight that his adamtium ones could. meaning with adamtium he can hold weight much heavier with out any fear of his bones breaking.

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There is already evidence of Wolverine being overpowered by Captain American physically, in addition to Cap having the better strength feats.

really were? You mean capt in a running start, using monmentum and leverage to get Logan into that situation which Logan easly got out.........none of that shows capt being superior in strength. at best that make him around wolevrines strength.

really elts see some feats. all i got is you tlaking out your ass and providing zero evdiences as usual and making stupid statements.

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