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that's not strength is it? it's more like magic
skurge can do that too.


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that's not strength is it? it's more like magic
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Punching through dimensional walls requires far more than physical strength. It was probably the magical nature of Juggernaut's power that enabled him to do this.


Juggernaut's strength is given to him through magic, but there was nothing that indicated that this was a super magic attack. He didn't charge it up, nor do some mystical conjuring of power. There was nothing that stated that magic was the reason. Are we going to say that everything Cain does is due to magic? Are we going to say that all of Thor's strength feats are due to magic and being a God? What about Captain Marvel?


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What has contradicted it?


i'm just saying that there have been other hulks that for me, haven't been that far off WB Hulk. I don't think anything he did in WWH was that impossible for a few other high heralds to pull off.


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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Juggernaut's strength is given to him through magic, but there was nothing that indicated that this was a super magic attack. He didn't charge it up, nor do some mystical conjuring of power. There was nothing that stated that magic was the reason. Are we going to say that everything Cain does is due to magic? Are we going to say that all of Thor's strength feats are due to magic and being a God? What about Captain Marvel?
no, its just that being strong enough to punch through dimensions makes no sense

how exactly do you even attempt to punch a 'dimension'?


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Based on what? Because he caused the ground to shake before he got owned by a satellite? He's not the only being who's power has caused earthquake-like effects.

There's really no evidence to gauges his power. How can you say WB is stronger than 8th day Juggernaut? That's a joke to be honest.


I believe that Juggernaut and Stonecutter's fight shook the entire earth itself. I'll double check though.


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no, its just that being strong enough to punch through dimensions makes no sense

how exactly do you even attempt to punch a 'dimension'?


Superboy Prime did so and he's not magical at all. Remember when he did that little reality punch thingy that brought back like everyone and their grandma?


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Based on what? Because he caused the ground to shake before he got owned by a satellite? He's not the only being who's power has caused earthquake-like effects.

There's really no evidence to gauges his power. How can you say WB is stronger than 8th day Juggernaut? That's a joke to be honest.
Are you serious? The guy was trying to restrain himself and literally destroying the eastern seaboard merely by existing. If he went all out who knows what kind of damage he could have done.

8th Juggernaut has always been overrated. The guy couldn't even physically dominate the builder templar physically. They stalemated for quite some time.

WW Hulk easily took on Juggernaut in ww hulk. WB Hulk was much more powerful and Juggernaut didn't seem to be a threat at all to WW Hulk just an obstacle in his path to prof. x.


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don't even try and make sense of that.


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I believe that Juggernaut and Stonecutter's fight shook the entire earth itself. I'll double check though.
And? he was wrestling with someone whose talent was building things not being a physical powerhouse.


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Superboy Prime did so and he's not magical at all. Remember when he did that little reality punch thingy that brought back like everyone and their grandma?
don't even try and make sense of that.


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Are you serious? The guy was trying to restrain himself and literally destroying the eastern seaboard merely by existing. If he went all out who knows what kind of damage he could have done.

8th Juggernaut has always been overrated. The guy couldn't even physically dominate the builder templar physically. They stalemated for quite some time.

WW Hulk easily took on Juggernaut in ww hulk. WB Hulk was much more powerful and Juggernaut didn't seem to be a threat at all to WW Hulk just an obstacle in his path to prof. x.


One we're talking about Trion, the huge giant version of him.

WWH got his ass beat, face stomped and his gut rocked.


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Once again I made the gross error of looking at Quanchi's posts.

"Destroyed the eastern seabord merely by existing"


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And? he was wrestling with someone whose talent was building things not being a physical powerhouse.


So you say that it was mainly Cain's strength that shook the Earth?

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don't even try and make sense of that.


I've learned to accept it. He was emo at the time and Emo powers allow you to do that.


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Once again I made the gross error of looking at Quanchi's posts.

"Destroyed the eastern seabord merely by existing"


Hulk's got a killer aura!


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Why do you call him emo?

His entire planet was destroyed when he was out saving the Multiverse. Prime is entitled to be as angry or sad as he wants to.


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Once again I made the gross error of looking at Quanchi's posts.

"Destroyed the eastern seabord merely by existing"
Yes, he would have done so. He was trying to restrain himself and tearing apart the eastern seaboard by taking steps.

It all happened in ww hulk. You should read it some time.
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One we're talking about Trion, the huge giant version of him.

WWH got his ass beat, face stomped and his gut rocked.
No one ever said anything about trion until now.


Dude, the Hulk was completely fine. His healing factor was off the charts. he healed immediately from a broken neck after his normal power levels returned. Juggs was just an obstacle and not very difficult one. Juggs couldn't even beat him after he went through two teams of mutants and a depowered Juggernaut once already.


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Why do you call him emo?

His entire planet was destroyed when he was out saving the Multiverse. Prime is entitled to be as angry or sad as he wants to.


laughing out loud

identifying with prime, are we? stick out tongue


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no, its just that being strong enough to punch through dimensions makes no sense

how exactly do you even attempt to punch a 'dimension'?


Exactly-physical strength alone can't breach dimensional barriers. As Cain's powers are magical in origin, it is that magical aspect of his power that enabled him to punch through dimensions, rather than just destroy the physical world around him.

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One we're talking about Trion, the huge giant version of him.

WWH got his ass beat, face stomped and his gut rocked.


yes In the WWH/Juggernaut fight Hulk was dishing out some damage but he was on the losing end no doubt. It was even shown when they tested strength against one another that Juggernaut was superior. I hate how Quanchi interprets that fight. Like Juggernaut was of no consequence.

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Once again I made the gross error of looking at Quanchi's posts.

"Destroyed the eastern seabord merely by existing"


laughing out loud


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laughing out loud

identifying with prime, are we? stick out tongue


If I were in his place I would be a hella lot angrier.


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