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Temugin vs Gorgon
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VanMae
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Gorgan has a better soak than someone who can shrug off punches from Iron Man?

Shrugging off punches from a guy who can do this: http://www.comicboards.com/ironman/...8001645/im1.jpg doesn't exactly suggest a weak damage-soak.

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Gorgan has a better soak than someone who can shrug off punches from Iron Man?

Shrugging off punches from a guy who can do this: http://www.comicboards.com/ironman/...8001645/im1.jpg doesn't exactly suggest a weak damage-soak.


shrugging off blunt force trauma while impressive is not in the same league as say..having all 6 of wolverines claws and 2 of Elektras katanas through your body. (chest and abdomin) And still kicking 4 types of shit out of them..


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I agree but have we seen Gorgon take blunt force like Tem has?


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Battlehammer has a point. Look at the scans of the shots Temugin gave Ironmans armor, apply them to an opponent with Gorgons stats/skill level , include the probability of the ability to roll with/half block/counter said blows because he is a master martial artist with truely superhuman reflexes and speed. Add to the fact he has a battlefield healing factor, baring in mind his OWN durability... he fell or rather was prepelled 50 feet on to concrete with his head (which is not re-enforced by Adamantium or some other heavy metal) and was unscathed. It's not a cut and dry win for Temugin by any stretch of the imagination. Can he win? Sure he can, but for damage soak reasons i say Gorgon stands a better chance.

agreed.

But all I get in reply is "Temugin smashed Iron Man armor" as if that some how refuteds ever point I made, or I get people making dumbass insults to me with out giving a valid reason. Some one just said I was as stubborn as gimili? really what kinda lame ass insult is that. I not being stubborn, simply no ones made a cases to refute any of my points all they keep repeating is "Temugin smashed Iron Man armor that means he unstoppable". as if that some how proves there side right it rediculous, or I have people like Alf hroughing out red herring and trying lamely to insult me becuase he has no responses to any of my arguements.

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I agree but have we seen Gorgon take blunt force like Tem has?

why would he need to? We seen almost nothing phases him from assortment of attacks, and were to assume Tem can simply take him out? Then there the fact organ damage means nothing to an undead individual who has wolverine level healing factor. Then there to fact he a telepath who could read tem like an open book and has superior speed/reflexes and to top it all off he wields two swords.......giving him a huge reach advantage, but all I get from you is insults, maybe try refuting a point for onces.

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
why would he need to? We seen almost nothing phases him from assortment of attacks, and were to assume Tem can simply take him out? Then there the fact organ damage means nothing to an undead individual who has wolverine level healing factor. Then there to fact he a telepath who could read tem like an open book and has superior speed/reflexes and to top it all off he wields two swords.......giving him a huge reach advantage, but all I get from you is insults, maybe try refuting a point for onces.
fight takes place in a dojo they both have the option to use weapons


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why would he need to? We seen almost nothing phases him from assortment of attacks, and were to assume Tem can simply take him out? Then there the fact organ damage means nothing to an undead individual who has wolverine level healing factor. Then there to fact he a telepath who could read tem like an open book and has superior speed/reflexes and to top it all off he wields two swords.......giving him a huge reach advantage, but all I get from you is insults, maybe try refuting a point for onces.
Because debating with you is almost as bad as debating with Quan many people in this thread would agree i rather ignore you and debate with more civil and open people. Anyway like i said Tem wins with tp off otherwise i think he loses.


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fight takes place in a dojo they both have the option to use weapons

I dont know what dojo's you have been to, but there not normally weapons lying around. That a misconception. also has Tem ever even used weapons in combat?

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I dont know what dojo's you have been to, but there not normally weapons lying around. That a misconception. also has Tem ever even used weapons in combat?
the op specifically stated there were weps and im not sure but he is probably versed in many weapons


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Because debating with you is almost as bad as debating with Quan many people in this thread would agree i rather ignore you and debate with more civil and open people. Anyway like i said Tem wins with tp off otherwise i think he loses.


its very funny iceman how i didnt see any reasnable post from you , you didnt give any reason why he should beat gorgon you didnt give anything and yet you are trying to insult someone who just gave you a solid reason why gorgon will win, if i was the mod i would ban you long time ago for being nothing more then a troll who never debate just insult and cover

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Nice obvious sock. thumb up


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Because debating with you is almost as bad as debating with Quan many people in this thread would agree i rather ignore you and debate with more civil and open people. Anyway like i said Tem wins with tp off otherwise i think he loses.

So in other words you have no evidences, you have no way to refute any of my points and are trying to say face by making up a lame excuses wonderful


The people who would agree with you are also consider some of the biggest retards and trolls on the boards nice company u got there.

Yea I am so stubborn right. please name when I been shown to be wrong and not admitt it I love to see it. hell haft the time you think I disagree with the out come when I dont, I tend to debate sides dispite the fact I believe they may loses simply becuase other bring nothing to the table to prove there points or even make real point, much like your self who simply insults all day. debating with u is like debating with a five year old.

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Nice obvious sock. thumb up

u proved his point further and mine. You dont debate you through out insults and pretty much waste everyones time, I dont even understand why your on the boards at all let a lone the amount of time u spend on it doing litterrally nothing but insulting others.

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So in other words you have no evidences, you have no way to refute any of my points and are trying to say face by making up a lame excuses wonderful


The people who would agree with you are also consider some of the biggest retards and trolls on the boards nice company u got there.

Yea I am so stubborn right. please name when I been shown to be wrong and not admitt it I love to see it. hell haft the time you think I disagree with the out come when I dont, I tend to debate sides dispite the fact I believe they may loses simply becuase other bring nothing to the table to prove there points or even make real point, much like your self who simply insults all day. debating with u is like debating with a five year old.
Thats great put on ignore for good.


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Originally posted by thanos-prime
the op specifically stated there were weps and im not sure but he is probably versed in many weapons

oh I must have missed that. He maybe, but ive neer onces seen him uses them, to assume he would when he never does would be out of character would it not?

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Thats great put on ignore for good.

awosome proving my point yet again. You can't come up with a responses so you run away or insult.


nice, any time u want to battlezone I be glad to put u in your places.

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I believe temugin could win he has the strength advantage class 90 striking power so he could do some real damage espically if he uses his chi to increase his striking power if gorgon is faster i doubt it is by much the only real way i can see gorgon winning is by using the stare


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I believe temugin could win he has the strength advantage class 90 striking power so he could do some real damage espically if he uses his chi to increase his striking power if gorgon is faster i doubt it is by much the only real way i can see gorgon winning is by using the stare
thumb up I agree or tp


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oh I must have missed that. He maybe, but ive neer onces seen him uses them, to assume he would when he never does would be out of character would it not?
well i would assume someone who grows up like he did would be versed in many styles of martial arts and many different weapons but he hasn't shown any use in weapons


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They both suck

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