I think the fact that spidey is physically faster/more agile will tilt the balance beam caused by negating senses in his favor....even if x's may be slightly more precise. They're both reacting based on their precognitive-esqe senses, but spidey's natural edge in speed/agility will allow him to react faster IMO.....
Spider-man doesn't really have a significant speed edge over any top tier street. I mean, sure, he's faster... but in about the same way that $10.10 is more money than $10. Virtually all of Peter's top speed feats have been replicated or failing that matched with an equally impressive feat by Marvel's best MAs. It's Spider-man's spider-sense that edges him out against people in the same speed ball park as him, and that is more than negated by X's telepathy.
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I say Spider-man is far faster than X. So even if he did predict where the attack is coming from, there would be a problem of him not having enough time to get his hand into position to block.
Also, X attacks himself. That mean's Spidey can dodge and counter easily.
Spidey gets murdered. His h2h speed is not above say Wolverine`s level and MAists without precognition always give him serious trouble. His use of the spider sense is nowhere near the level where he can counter X`s ability. Perhaps if he spent some serious time honing it like that what if or whatever. X decimates the likes of Taskmaster without breaking a sweat, Spidey has no chanse in hell.
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Actually spider sense doesnt simply warn him of danger. It warns him of what kind of danger its gonna be, when exactly its coming and where it's directed, heck he even said that it pretty much FORCES his body to move out of dangers way. Sure sometimes its written like some sh!tty alarm system, but that's by writers that have no idea. So its easilly a match for X's abilities in a fight. And there's the speed advantage too. That's why I give him majority.
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If it FORCES him to move out of his way X will play him like a cheap fiddle, set him up for devastating attacks and destroy him.
Spider sense might be a match for X`s nerve reading if he had practiced using it on the same level. X fends off the best fighters in the world with his back turned and barely even trying. Seriously, Peter need to hone his abilities before he can stand up to someone like X.
He wont play him for nothing, it'll be just another attack that Spider-man will see coming again and dodge thanks to his superior speed or even better counter that'll lead to a ko. X hangs with the best fighters mostly thanks to his abilities. Not so much without them. ANd in this fight his abilities wont be much of a factor as they're easily matched by spider sense.
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Very, very wrong. X would be nothing without his training. If he went about using the mutation without real training he`d end up like spidey, relying on his raw ability rather than honing his talents. An eternal amateur.
What better way can one hone his naturally unique gifts. Then to use them almost everyday defending New York City against any foe Peter can come across.
If he actually took time to let the Spider Spirit in and "teach" him, he would probably end up catching and eating bystanders waiting for their bus.
And when this amateur gets POed he effortlessly trashes the best MA fighters Marvel has relying on his abilities alone and without breaking a sweat. Fighting skills is a great thing but are overrated on kmc. Heck Ssometimes Spider-man trashes the said MA fighters when he's in his normal mood set and holding back. When he stops holding back its an overkill. I never said X is a bad fighter. He is good, but without his powers he'd be another trained killer, I doubt even on Bullseye's level. It's his powers that make him such a threat for guys like Taskmaster and even Wolverine. Without them he'd lose to any of them. And in this case his powers wont be much of a factor.
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Exactly. Spider-man says he beats about 50 armed guys "on a slow day" and he's been doing it for 10 years not counting all the super villains he beat. One can spend 20 years learning ma without fighting anyone while someone else would spend 10 years learning to fight by actually fighting ALL THE TIME and EVERY DAY for 10 years. Id put my money on the second guy.
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He was fighting bears to train himself to deal with berserker's rage. But we didnt get to see if it did him any good because Wolverine refused to fight. The bear did bite him in the end though.
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X was goading Wolvie to go berzerk, wanting a rematch. Clearly he has practiced for it.
Beating up "armed guys" is hardly a challenge. Spidey got no basics, without those he is just ingraining bad habit and wasteful motion. Which is why the skilled can match his speed, read him like a book and take him down in spite of all his superhuman stats.
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