(1) That Juggernaut was being pushed back (This being in doubt at all is plain stupidity by the way) and (2) that he never actually started moving forward.
If you're going to keep this up however, just say so and I won't reply.
For the record, Odin would put him in the hospital.
Thor, War Hulk, Captain Universe, Onslaught have all kicked his ass bereft of the force field. Then there's Professor Hulk, Shatterstar, the Exemplar etc. all causing him physical pain.
Juggernaut's not invulnerable. Only his fan club pretends he is.
Why do people have such difficulty reading?
"...Cain Mark experiences an unaccustomed moment of vertigo and total disbelief--as he unexpectedly feels himself being pushed back."
Juggernaut experienced an uncustomed moment of vertigo and disbelief because he was being pushed back.
Jesus Christ.
You just answered your own question.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Apr 2nd, 2011 at 01:16 PM
rage, juggernaut is invincible. the few instances where he was hurt are inconsistent and most likely PIS or just Cain still mentally thinking of the pain than actually feeling it.
odin could bfr juggy but he cannot ko juggy and would lose if he went melee.
Not really. Once you reach High Herald levels and up, he needs his force field. Seeing as how I can name like a dozen instances where his been affected and/or harmed by physical force, I doubt it's PIS. Seriously, the dude has outright attributed his force field to his invulnerability as far back as the late 60's. Heck, it was protecting him in his first appearance. Simply put, Juggernaut's invulnerability coming from his force field is what makes sense based on the large majority of his appearances.
I've seen Cain indulging in human acts like eating, drinking etc. but that's mostly out of pleasure from what I understand. Juggernaut seems to be fully aware of his capabilities and powers. He understands that his invincible and unstoppable for most intents and purposes. The argument that he still perceives himself as vulnerable to forces which he isn't is not something that's going to fly from what I've seen.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Apr 2nd, 2011 at 01:39 PM
Here's a list I've compiled:
- He was hurt by Storm and Spider-Woman's electrical attack.
- Staggered by an impact with a wind tunnel fan.
- Hurt when Nightcrawler threw a torch in his face.
- Beaten down by Thor.
- Beaten down by War Hulk.
- Brought to his knees by the Professor Hulk.
- Had his eye plucked out by Shatterstar.
- Hurt by the Exemplar Weapon's Master.
- Owned by Onslaught.
- Screamed in pain from a set of kitchen knives dropped by Deadpool (Lawlz).
- Hurt by a blow from Green Scar (Post regaining of power).
- Owned by Captain Universe.
That's a pretty long list for someone who is apparently completely invulnerable. Seriously, the dude outright attributed it to his force field in his earliest appearances: (please log in to view the image)
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are all of those actual sustained injuries? I'm sure the list is much smaller when you account how many times Juggy has ever actually showed physical injury...ie blood, gash, bruise, etc
Read. He outright calls his force field invulnerable. It also doesn't help that this dialogue took place while he was deflecting chopper blades. The meaning was quite clear.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Apr 2nd, 2011 at 01:55 PM
Rage I'm warning you. You are picking the wrong battle if you wish to discuss this with me. I will bury in this argument why because I A) Know Juggernaut better than you ever will and B) I do have reading comprehension. Am I grammatical genius no but if I need to raise the doubt needed to overlook you're simple efforts I can do such very easily.
Now either you take my word on the fact that Cain doesn't need his forcefield for his high end durability. That while yes they're are instances that Cain can be effected that they are A) Rare and B) not without circumstances most people would be able to see.
And C) Cain was only mildly effected by Thor's Godblast a mystical/divine attack that at best moved him back a foot and at worst for you is completely being overhyped.
Or I will spend the better part of 3 or 4 massive posts demonstrating why most of what you are saying is not true or only mildly true once you take context into account.
Which I really don't want to do.
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Last edited by Newjak on Apr 2nd, 2011 at 02:03 PM
newjak, juggernaut (well, classic juggernaut) has always been one of the most underrated sold short characters on KMC
I myself have debated against rage in the past re: thor vs juggy and he just continues to lowball classic juggy for whatever reason. I doubt your posts will convince him otherwise.
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You just answered your own question.
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