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TheLordofMurder
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Originally posted by zopzop
When has he ever created a "hyperspace construct"? On panel proof?


Of course hes never done such a thing; no story has demanded it...

But surely you arent arguing that he is incapable of doing that are you? He's an extreme matter/energy manipulator and a major universal force afterall...

Would you argue that Eternity and the Living Tribunal are incapable of replicating Sue's feat despite the fact that they have never created a hyperspace construct on panel?


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The LT is the closest thing you can get to a true omnipotent in Marvel and as TOAA's second in command he can basically do anything. He's a multiversal being.

And don't bring up Eternity please. He's been crushed by the likes of Nightmare. I don't think Exitar has anything to worry about from him and no I don't think he can replicate it.


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So you dont think Eternity or Galactus could replicate Sue Storms feat...


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So you dont think Eternity or Galactus could replicate Sue Storms feat...


Nope. Not the way they job.


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Nope. Not the way they job.


You know there is no PIS in a forum fight; its a default rule btw...

Thus their jobbing streaks arent applicable here...

Jobbing and PIS aside, you really think Eternity and Galactus are incapable of replicating Sue's feat?

Seriously!?


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You know there is no PIS in a forum fight; its a default rule btw...

Thus their jobbing streaks arent applicable here...

Jobbing and PIS aside, you really think Eternity and Galactus are incapable of replicating Sue's feat?

Seriously!?


No. Show me when they've done anything on panel that suggests they could (especially Eternity).


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Galactus 'consumed' Tiamut. 500,000 years later Galactus knew fear when Tiamut awoke


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What issue did this happen in?


Bumpage


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Bumpage

http://marvel.wikia.com/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_340
That's the only thing I can think of.


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i will double chk believe the issues were #337-341

tiamut awoke in gaiman's eternals #6


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i will double chk believe the issues were #337-341

tiamut awoke in gaiman's eternals #6


If it was the "Black Celestial" arc in FF 339-341 then it was a weakened Tiamut that died and I got proof smile


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Regarding the Black Celestial Arc (Fantastic Four 339-341) where Tiamut was eaten by his own creation :
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When he was imprisoned and drained of his power, he used what little of his telepathic abilities he had to call out to the Deviants and they came and built him his fortress that would help him harness energy so he could be about as powerful as he was before his imprisonment.

The FF/Thor/Iron-Man/Gladiator learn of this and destroy his base using a huge stock pile of Shi'ar tech.

So while he was flying around through space/time chasing the FF/Thor/Iron-Man, he was basically depowered because his base was destroyed. That's why he died in the black hole and was devoured by the altered Galactus.

It's all right there on panel. Tiamut easily gets to Exitar, then the real fight starts.


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And don't bring up Eternity please. He's been crushed by the likes of Nightmare. I don't think Exitar has anything to worry about from him and no I don't think he can replicate it.


And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously... roll eyes (sarcastic)


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And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously... roll eyes (sarcastic)


Show me anything Eternity's done on panel with his power. Anything. Until then, stfu.


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Show me what TOAA has done. Show me what the Presence has done. Show me what the Primal Monitor has done.

When you get up that high, you don't need feats. They don't have to demonstrate power - they are power.


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Show me what TOAA has done. Show me what the Presence has done. Show me what the Primal Monitor has done.

When you get up that high, you don't need feats. They don't have to demonstrate power - they are power.


Really?!

Imprisoned by Nightmare, then choked out by the Ancient One! laughing
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You don't need feats!

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Again, show me an issue where they were beaten by absorbing their hyperspace energy and not by jumping inside one and using a hyperspace construct to destroy it's soft spot. While your at it, show me Galactus creating a hyperspace construct (like Sue's FF's).

I'll wait.


Nope. While you're at it demanding scans that force Galactus to lower his feats to the level of sue storm, I'll reiterate again

prove to me that Celestials can survive without hyperspace energy. Prove to me that employing this attack will be ineffectual.
Prove to me that Galactus is incapable of manipulating hyperspace when he rendered the best hyperspace manipulator ineffectual.
Prove to me that Galactus requires a construct to manipulate hyperspace energies.

I'm pulling you back into reality as you hopped several circles of requisite logic. You demand scans that Galactus can create a construct. Nope, doesn't work that way. Prove to me first that Galactus REQUIRES the construct to begin with, since he's already shown on panel to absorb hyperspace with absolutely no outside aids whatsoever. The same applies to the rest of your "points."


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Nope. While you're at it demanding scans that force Galactus to lower his feats to the level of sue storm, I'll reiterate again

prove to me that Celestials can survive without hyperspace energy. Prove to me that employing this attack will be ineffectual.
Prove to me that Galactus is incapable of manipulating hyperspace when he rendered the best hyperspace manipulator ineffectual.
Prove to me that Galactus requires a construct to manipulate hyperspace energies.

I'm pulling you back into reality as you hopped several circles of requisite logic. You demand scans that Galactus can create a construct. Nope, doesn't work that way. Prove to me first that Galactus REQUIRES the construct to begin with, since he's already shown on panel to absorb hyperspace with absolutely no outside aids whatsoever. The same applies to the rest of your "points."


None of what you posted has anything to do with how Sue beat Exitar. She used her hyperspace constructs INSIDE him. No draining involved.

Prove to me Galactus can replicate that feat : ie using a hyperspace construct inside Exitar to strike a critical part of his body.


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None of what you posted has anything to do with how Sue beat Exitar. She used her hyperspace constructs INSIDE him. No draining involved.

Prove to me Galactus can replicate that feat : ie using a hyperspace construct inside Exitar to strike a critical part of his body.


There was no draining involved because sue can't drain.

In other words, G doesn't need to replicate the feat since he can do something several orders of magnitude more impressive than simply using hyperspace manip to punch a hole through exitar's armor.


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There was no draining involved because sue can't drain.

In other words, G doesn't need to replicate the feat since he can do something several orders of magnitude more impressive than simply using hyperspace manip to punch a hole through exitar's armor.


She beat him by striking a critical spot INSIDE his body using a hyperspace construct. Show me scans that suggest Galactus can replicate that feat or go pound sand.


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