Er, no? Odin is king of asgard? Bor was before him, and "King" Thor was also. That's why the "king" is in front of his name.
No, that would be the Odinforce. When granted, it amps the user's power astronomically. This is why King Thor >>>>>>>> Regular Thor. It's not the crown. I get the impression you don't know the characters very well.
And Galactus himself is on a completely different tier telepathically. Professor X couldn't even get Galactus to NOTICE him when he tried communicating. It's clearly established in the MU that Trying to read the mind of a skyfather class (or better) character is nowhere near as easy as reading the mind of a mortal.
Professor X could also do this. again, he couldn't even get galactus' attention. The same galactus that Odin stalemated in mental combat. By that feat, Odin is hundreds or thousands of times more powerful psionically than Earth's strongest telepaths. Assuming that superman 1 million is just going to waltz in and read his mind with no resistance is laughable.
That version of superman is a bit of a wild card, but not that impressive. He was intelligent, but not intelligent enough to realize that trying to give his own wife powers like his would kill her.
It took the galaxy to take imperiex out. Kismet/Superman was a part of that. If you think that version of superman is equivalent to Odin or King Thor, then by all means- start listing feats.
Everything you just wrote backs up my assertion. In the absence of the super sun (or regular sun) extreme effort will drain solar reserves and weaken or kill him. You have him trying to take over an entire dimension. Therefore, Removing the sun from the battlefield will severely weaken most of these supermen over time during combat. period.
The point here is that the breadth of the powers of a skyfather exceeds that of superman 1 million by several orders of magnitude. Odin can teleport entire dimensions, create stars from nothing, travel through time at will or lend those powers to others...superman 1 million is strong (herald level, I think), but not skyfather strong.
Sorry, I don't believe you're quite on my reading level, since this fight was never 3 people versus a crowd of supermen. This is ALL OF ASGARD of which those are 3 out of hundreds or thousands of asgardians and demons, if we're including Surtur, Ymir, and (possibly) the super destroyer.
none of these supermen have the ability to stop Thor, Bor, AND odin from removing the sun from the battlefield in the seconds it would take them to do it.
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you gave him the title king of gods which means he is the king of all gods.. news flash king of asgard is not king of all gods
i know king thor better than you do thatsfor sure but i said its Rune King Thor version even a more powerful version read the posts
of course reading the mind of a skyfatrher is harder than ordinary telepath but come on telepathy on the levels of Superman 1 Million, harvey,Kisment, and freakin quantum? you serious?
why are we discussing his intelligence? do you think the main topic is "are you impressed by kismet"? kismet is a being far above odin and thats it no going circles with this subject, i am not even stating quantum golden tangent and million Lol
so wait a second are you saying that a trans tier king Thor and odin are above Kismet? dude GTFO
Superman 1 Million dependens on the sun is extreme, and still ittakes him hours to get depowered by being away from it, other supermans are not that extreme weaken by it.
Superman 1 Million is herald? are you trolling on purpose? aherald can sniff away a red star? a herald can fight off a charging galaxy? a herald can punch 853 centeries into the future while being greatly depowered? a herald could contain solaris with a force field? a herald could contain solar explosions with his force vision? aherald could just sniff away firestorm like a fly? it was stated that Superman 1 Million is far greater than ordinary superman and is the strongest superman to date , judging by his feats he is a low - mid skyfather.
you are stating too much bullshit seriously i dont know for how long have you been on here but it doesnt change the fact you state too much bullshit
i never said it will take a crowd of supermans to deal with those 3, you on the other hand said no one here can stop those 3, Kismet Superman will take odin out thats all is needed for the fastest win.
thats your opinion which is based on nothing, quantum superman alone will prevent them from doing so not to mention 1 Million golden and kismet, the sun wont be even touched
I'm having a hard time taking you seriously, since your reading comprehension is so bad. "King of the gods" (meaning the asgardian gods) is odin's official title. Zeus is also king of his pantheon, etc etc. Not only is it a royal designation, it also makes it clear that as "King" he is far more powerful than the rest of the asgardian gods.
There is no such thing as "rune king thor". That particular designation was made up on internet forums. Marvel never made a distinction between "King" and "Rune King." but please continue to impress me with how much you know.
Yes, I am serious. Do you have any examples at all of any of them manipulating the mind of something as powerful as Odin or Galactus? Why not just "mind rape" imperiex then? OH RIGHT...because they couldn't.
Harvey's intellect was a product of his advanced mind, which gave him telepathy as a side effect. Super intelligent, but with limits. Powerful telepath, but not omniscient.
and I'm asking you to prove it. Feel free to start anytime.
They all depend on the sun to some degree. Regular superman has also found himself depowered when in the absence of a sun, or under a red sun, etc. It happens quite a bit.
Herald class characters have feats on that level, yes. Powerful heralds, but heralds none the less. Odin or Galactus could accomplish all that without effort, yet those are the very upper end of what superman 1 million can accomplish.
Skyfather feats are far greater. Creating life? (Galactus has done this) Willing Stars and Planets into creation from nothing? (Odin has done this) Fighting across all planes of existence simultaneously? (odin again) THESE are skyfather feats and superman 1 million is not on this level.
whatever you say, junior. With that, I'm bored of you, so have fun with the topic.
its me actually who is having hard time taking you seriously seeing how you are butt hurt and biased to a point you try to twist common things that we all know.
what i asked you is if his title of king of gods gives him some special abilities? you are saying they cant read the king of the gods as if the title alone gives him extreme powers, and you are talking with me about reading comprehension?
i am using Rune King Thor to describe that specific version of thor because thats the way people here and across the entire internet and comics world reffer to him, how else would i describe him? your describtion is even worse because calling him King Thor is false since there is already a version that is called that way so seriously dont be a straw man it doesnt do you any good.
i am not proving a negative, i brought you the fact this list of supermans got very powerful telepaths that could scan planets and galaxies with there telepathy, quantum superman alone had the abilities of Dr Manhatten and that alone should tell you he is going to read odin like nothing, Galactus was able to read Odin and galactus isnt known for his telepathy to begin with so its up toyou to prove odin has some kind of mega telepathic blocking resistance that let me guess... comming from his title "king of gods"
mind rape imperiex? first of all Superman 1 Million and all the others werent involved in that fight so who do you mean "THEY COULDNT"?
what you are doing here is lying and trolling basically by stating false events,Kismet superman went on against imperiex and i guess mind raping him wasnt in his intentions, was he trying to mind rape him and failed? was it stated he cant mind rape him? for all that we know he just didnt try to use that ability because the writers wanted to give us a flashy fight, its like you bring thor fight where he is just brawling someone and then go and sayhis lightning or tornado powers wont work on the enemy because he didnt use them on his opponent.
you are asking me to prove kismet is beyond odin and King Thor? Kismet is a cosmic entity the equivalent of Eternity from marvel,She is also nigh omnipotent and can manipulate time, space and reality to achieve virtually any feat imaginable, the fact alone she possessed Superman and made him defeat imperiex is enough already to put her above odin in the first place, she didnt have much apearences or feats overall but to say she is weaker than odin just because a lack of feats is retarded, DC doesnt tend to throw there strongest characters into fights like marvel does, thats why characters like kismet lucifer morningstar or michael dont have too many feats , but we know them as established characters and we know what they are so to say prove TOAA is more powerful than odin by feats is retarded.
no its not, Superman 1 Million is extremely dependent on the super sun, the other supermans are not they can contain the solar energy to a better degree just as mainstream superman wasnt really depowered when he was in stories which involved him away from the sun , overall it takes any superman a long time until they start to depower without the sun, and as i stated before some versions here dont even need the sun seeing how they have a different power source.
now you are just simply lying, a herald cant accomplish the feats Superman 1 Million did, a herald is not on a galactic level, a herald cant handle solaric energies and scale his powers with galaxies, a herald cant just vaporize stars, a herald cant do the things 1 million did while being greatly depowered, even while depowered 1 Million was owning heralds, it is stated not by a character but by the comics narration itself that Superman 1 Million is far more powerful than mainstream superman who is a high end herald himself so you got nothing but lying and trolling to try and back up your absurd claim, and why do you bring odin and galactus into this? are you saying they are heralds as well? you are saying heralds could acomplish those feats and then you bring up Odin and galactus which leads us to believe you think they are heralds themselves? boy you need seriously to sit down and check out the established power levels and gaps between the categories becauseyou got some issues or you are just trolling its 1 of the 2
Superman 1 Million match his power with galaxies thats at least a skyfather level which is fact, who said one needs to create life? those are cool abilities and all but who said they are useful in a fight and determine the power level overall? its like me saying Superman 1 Million got force vision, quantum vision, is immune to any magic, is immune to being possessed, time travels and dimension traveler got hypnotic manipulation so prove odin has those otherwise he is more powerful than odin... everybody got cool different abilities but doesnt mean much, Superman 1 Million got cooler abilities than Golden Prime Himself, does that mean he is more powerful? see my point?
it is i who is bored with your lies and trolling, youare stating false things and straw man what ever you can, as i said before odin is not a problem here at all, half of this list could give him a hard fight but as i said either kismet or quantum just take him out fast and easily and there is nothing he can do about it, 1 Million takes out surtur , GA SBP will take care off bor Goldy Will go up against Rune King Thor and there are still many powerful superman left, tangent and composed will stomp zeus ... but i wana see what other people got to say as long as they dont make shit up like you do
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from what I understand IT's all the same force. It's just a power source that gets inherited/given/taken by whoever is king of the asgardian God's. They can name it anything, Thor force/Odin force/ bor force, its all the same
As for the whole Odin destroying the sun thing. Honestly I think it's more likely for him to be able to do it than for one of the supes to instantly read his mind and be able to stop him instantly. That seems a bit less likely to happen. Just my Op. Feel free to prove me wrong with scans or issues with one of them doing something along those lines to an Odin leveler
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