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Galan007
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Personally, from what I've read, I wouldn't consider the blades to be standard equipment for Majestic.
Yeah. Majestic has periodically utilized them, but he generally does not.

However, the Kusar blades in Majestic's personal arsenal (which some seem to be confusing with the Creation Blades) are fair game. The Kusar blades are so sharp that they can, quite literally, slice through energy attacks (Captain Atom's in this case):
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"This sword was crafted by Kherubim masters. It was designed to absorb the heat of a thousand suns, and to shave the rough edges off an electron."

Energy deflection/absorption aside, the Kusar blades are also sharp enough to cut Majectic himself (and Spartan):
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...So cutting Surfer shouldn't be a problem.



With the Kusar blades, Majestic's chances of beating Surfer are really good, imo.


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Hmm...

Wasn't Surfer cut to pieces on panel and reformed?


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Originally posted by MF DELPH
Hmm...

Wasn't Surfer cut to pieces on panel and reformed?

not only that, he's been smashed to atoms only to reform instantly too.
depends on the writer, Surfer's either un-killable or liable to fall off his board and do himself a serious injury.


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Surfer wasn't cut by Morg's axe... which cut his board in twix.
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not only that, he's been smashed to atoms only to reform instantly too.
depends on the writer, Surfer's either un-killable or liable to fall off his board and do himself a serious injury.
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Hmm...

Wasn't Surfer cut to pieces on panel and reformed?


it's feats like this makes me shake my head when we still see these guys being able to be ko'd by punches.

insta-full bodied regeneration and still being able to be knocked out for extended periods of time doesn't mesh together.


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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Surfer wasn't cut by Morg's axe... which cut his board in twix.
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...Yet Surfer was still owned. Severely.

Anywho, I really don't see your 'average' Surfer being left unscathed from a weapon capable of cutting Majestic... Especially given the Superman-esque force that would be behind said strike.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah. Majestic has periodically utilized them, but he generally does not.

However, the Kusar blades in Majestic's personal arsenal (which some seem to be confusing with the Creation Blades) are fair game. The Kusar blades are so sharp that they can, quite literally, slice through energy attacks (Captain Atom's in this case):
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"This sword was crafted by Kherubim masters. It was designed to absorb the heat of a thousand suns, and to shave the rough edges off an electron."

Energy deflection/absorption aside, the Kusar blades are also sharp enough to cut Majectic himself (and Spartan):
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...So cutting Surfer shouldn't be a problem.



With the Kusar blades, Majestic's chances of beating Surfer are really good, imo.


Good points. Those swords he wields are nasty.

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Originally posted by Galan007
...Yet Surfer was still owned. Severely.

Anywho, I really don't see your 'average' Surfer being left unscathed from a weapon capable of cutting Majestic... Especially given the Superman-esque force that would be behind said strike.

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Surfer turns himself into all the molecules in the environment, no wait, Surfer turns INTO the environment.

Even in Surfer's current - low power - state, he's too versatile and has too many phenomenal options, to be killed by a blade.

What would happen if Surfer filled the battlefield with Silver Surfers? Would Majestic have a clue where to aim, before Surfer's bisected him with his surfboard?


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Even in Surfer's current - low power - state, he's too versatile and has too many phenomenal options, to be killed by a blade.
It's odd that Morg could own him with a blade so easily, then.

Lets not act like Surfer is some invulnerable God who cannot be harmed. He can/has--and Majestic certainly has the power/equipment to do so.


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It's odd that Morg could own him with a blade so easily, then.

Lets not act like Surfer is some invulnerable God who cannot be harmed. He can/has--and Majestic certainly has the power/equipment to do so.

Surfer requires monumentally bad writing to be harmed in such a way, which is what I was pointing out.

That he's the victim of convenient amnesia when it comes to getting whacked by objects (intangibility), when getting sapped of his energies (his ability to steal energy/PC from everything) and when it comes to the necessity of giving a win to another herald (his instant healing).

an "average" Surfer would either vaporise the blade instantly or go intangible and attack from all angles.

a truly high-end Surfer would simply slice Majestic in two with his surfboard, whilst stealing power from Majestic's own body.

I don't see the blades as being a significant factor here, Surfer's going to win if he's fighting smart.


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an "average" Surfer would either vaporise the blade instantly or go intangible and attack from all angles.
An 'average' Surfer almost never uses intangibility mid-battle, though... And was there a reason why Surfer didn't vaporize Morg's axe... Or any of the weaponry that's harmed him over the years, for that matter?


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An 'average' Surfer almost never uses intangibility mid-battle, though... And was there a reason why Surfer didn't vaporize Morg's axe... Or any of the weaponry that's harmed him over the years, for that matter?

He's matter manipulated weapons before, in the dim past, and vaporised enemies instantly in he very recent past.

The reason he doesn't do any of that, is the same reason the can fall off his board and injure himself. Writers are lazy.


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The reason he doesn't do any of that, is the same reason he can fall off his board and injure himself. Writers are lazy.
But you said an 'average' Surfer does things like that. He doesn't, though. I think we're both on the same page now. thumb up

...I'm also curious what would happen to Surfer if he were struck by Majestic's energy vision (of which altered Jupiter's entire pre-atomic makeup.)


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When we're talking 'average' I'm assuming you mean somewhere between his highest and lowest feats... not the most common showing (which again might not be quite as low as to be troubled by Morg's blade).

As for energy vision, well, I expect Surfer would either absorb it and amp from it, redirected away without any ill-effect or fight it off with his own ability to directly and remotely alter sub-atomic, atomic and molecular structures of everything.


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Wow. Your definition of an 'average' Surfer is a LOT different than mine. Whatevs, no reason to go any further.


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Originally posted by MF DELPH
Hmm...

Wasn't Surfer cut to pieces on panel and reformed?


It was rather his limbs, not his neck or head. But it does smell like PIS.

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not only that, he's been smashed to atoms only to reform instantly too.
depends on the writer, Surfer's either un-killable or liable to fall off his board and do himself a serious injury.

This is clearly PIS since it would contradict anyone beating Surfer in comics, including Thor.


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Majestic uses his laser vision, to rewrite Norrin's genetic structure, builds a quantum buster in nano seconds and turns Norrin into a floating bag of random particles.

This fight could get absolutely silly lol.

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Originally posted by janus77
Surfer requires monumentally bad writing to be harmed in such a way, which is what I was pointing out.

That he's the victim of convenient amnesia when it comes to getting whacked by objects (intangibility), when getting sapped of his energies (his ability to steal energy/PC from everything) and when it comes to the necessity of giving a win to another herald (his instant healing).

an "average" Surfer would either vaporise the blade instantly or go intangible and attack from all angles.

a truly high-end Surfer would simply slice Majestic in two with his surfboard, whilst stealing power from Majestic's own body.

I don't see the blades as being a significant factor here, Surfer's going to win if he's fighting smart.
Surfer just can't vaporize anyone or anything in the universe. There is no way he can vaporize Morg's axe or even Majestic's swords. The items are too durable and resistant against matter manip.

And Surfer can't absorb anyone either, especially those with pulling power on their own. Otherwise he would absorb Thor or any other herald level being not from Galactus.


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