IIRC , then the author of Preacher was an atheist who basically wrote that entire series to poke fun at the (old testament?) Biblical myths and inconsistencies . Their God was not just a blithering idiot , but also an egomaniac of the highest order , and he was more or less a parody of Jehovah .
That said , considering how Thanos was able to survive the Necropsy Ritual(a process specifically meant to kill him) , I doubt SoK is doing much here(irrespective of whether or not we consider that he failed to kill a vampire) .
Except he didn't . I originally thought that he died but was brought back by Death along with his immortality curse . However he's still talking and very much alive even after being stabbed by the Infinity Blade/Necropsy Blade . He was bruised and battered , yes .
SoK killed supreme beings, but the Preacher-verse was a cynical and flawed world and story.
-Satan was a depressed thug who hated his job and was defeated in his own plane once a psychotic killer emerged in his realm and froze it.
--The Angel of Death, playing a card game with Satan is also depressed and over it gladly gives up his sword (creating the Saints six-shooters) and dies.
---God was nothing more than a thug who wasn't all-wise and loving and only seemed to care about retaining followers, who supplied him love and faith that empowered him. He resorted to dealing with psychopathic killers to do his work for him.
Gods influence on the universe was so weak. That once a demoness mated with an archangel it created a new idea called Genesis and God simply QUIT! This new idea is a sheer representation of the writers intent on how pathetic these entities are and intentions are simply AntiReligious in nature.
One has to also factor in the flaws like the Saint failing to kill-
-the Adephi angel instantly upon resurrecting him. He died after a conversation.
-and Cassidy who the writer had to defend later. Undead or not it's a poor excuse.
Now God was able to see, locate and talk to Jesse, Tulip and Cassidy whenever he wanted. But couldn't kill him. He was able to guide Jodie and T.C. to him with ease which initiated the intent to manipulate Jesse into becoming an ally to God. But Jesse wouldn't have a bar of it. My point is......
If the Saint of Killers shot Jesse would Genesis have died along with him?
And if so, why didn't Jesse's family simply tie him up whilst the Saint arrived and put a bullet in his head?
My end argument is these Almighty god figures in Preacher were cheap and don't stand up to Marvel's versions.
After reading the comments here which have helped I'm siding with Thanos. He has survived death through through methods like being killed by a Life Avatar and the Necropsy Blade. Odds are he probably survives the bullets.
And the look on the Saint's face will be priceless as Thanos pounds in to finish him. And that raises another question. SoK never took damage. But considering the saga's idea on everything having a limit...... even God. Thanos would probably bend his spine apart.
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IIIRC , wasn't Genesis mentioned as being more powerful than God even as an infant ?
Also , the author of the Preacher series was an anti-theist atheist and the entire premise of those series was to mock the Old Testament representation of God as an egomaniac , and to parody the inconsistencies of Biblical myths .
And he ended up being inconsistant in the process. Great series regardless no one will deny that.
It's these inconsistencies that will lose the fight for the Saint.
And in regards to Genesis being more powerful as an infant? Well one can't call Genesis an infant, it's an idea. And at the same time being a representation of man rising up above his forefathers tribal belief systems. Genesis and the Saint were practically the same idea.
-Genesis was a new idea/truth that threatened the status quo.
-The Saint was a man whose nature, instincts and general existence was heavier than an ancient force that specialized in what he was for aeons.
And yet his comprehension of the "Universe" was so limited a new idea threatened his entire existence. Hardly an all-knowing God.
God didn't even have the brains to have followers rending Jesse unconscious and allow the Saint to put a bullet in his brain. He was a thug. Nothing more.
He was just ahead of the curb. A CEO of a corrupt and dated corporation.
You didn't do shit but not understand that all he created was the Earth and 'Heavens', and took 6 days to do it, and had to rest afterward.
You are just trying to attribute our understanding of the Universe and retroactively apply it to an old book where the laws of reality were different than in actuality.
Biblical God is like any other fictional character in a book. His feats and the world he is written from has to be taken as is.
There is no 'Universe' as we know it in the Bible. Just the Earth, in the center of a small enclosed system that includes the sun, and in the Bible's verse the sun is smaller than Earth.
Fair enough. I'm just not gonna go there. CosmicComet needs to widen that barrier in this debate. This ain't a religious debate. It's a debate on a writer's cynical view and representation of a faith.
He should leave it at that.
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