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JakeTheBank
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Originally posted by Zack Fair
Same goes for Asgardians and their awesome skills, no?

Of course.

Blanket statements of "blah blah blah has ____________ years of experience" means little, if anything, without the feats to justify it.

In Superman's case, it seems that his feat of fighting for thousands of years in DC Asgard is supposed to mean something when it's dropped half the time, either that he's just as much or close to as being a warrior as the likes of Thor or Hercules or Conan or something or that that stint actually gave him considerable experience fighting or something.

Superman's already skilled and he was both before and after that feat. It's cool that it happened, but it has no real relevance, positive or negative, on him at all, really.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Of course.

Blanket statements of "blah blah blah has ____________ years of experience" means little, if anything, without the feats to justify it.

In Superman's case, it seems that his feat of fighting for thousands of years in DC Asgard is supposed to mean something when it's dropped half the time, either that he's just as much or close to as being a warrior as the likes of Thor or Hercules or Conan or something or that that stint actually gave him considerable experience fighting or something.

Superman's already skilled and he was both before and after that feat. It's cool that it happened, but it has no real relevance, positive or negative, on him at all, really.

Agreed. The whole "years of experience" angle is stupid without feats to back them up. Seems like a copout to me.

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Featwise superman is already more skilled than thor.

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Featwise superman is already more skilled than thor.

No he is not.

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Superman is more skilled in the use of his powers IMO. He also knows pressure points and has taken combat lessons from Bats(has he not? Could be mistaking Bruce for someone else). Even though writers just tend to have him punch things out...same shit that happens to Thor with the hammer. Sigh.

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they are both fighting all out no holding back no bfr who wins.

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No he is not.

Yeah he is.

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Yeah he is.

Well, we already know your answer.

Jul 15th, 2012 03:36 AM

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Hmm.......

Black Adam........

Who has went toe to toe with Supes on more than one occasion (and looked great doing it)....... dominated Cap Marvel several times..... and is an all around badass, not really caring how he is perceived or whether or not he kills his opponent.

vs

Glads......

Whose best showings are usually followed by something such as Namor beating on him (the same Namor who just lost to the Thing). Who has an attitude about like a high-school bully....... useful until it gets rough.

Black Adam would beat him down, and instead of the "gloating while the opponent recovers" move that Glads would need to compete, Teth would keep beating on him till he stopped moving/breathing/whatever.

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Well, we already know your answer.

Glad you agree.

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Black adam would own kallark just as easy as he owns a holding back superman.

So not at all, then?

Seriously though, Adam wins.

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So not at all, then?

Seriously though, Adam wins.

you've always had a dc bias Pr

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you've always had a dc bias Pr

lol no.

I thought we'd been through this already?

or do you just have a really short memory?

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Of course.

Blanket statements of "blah blah blah has ____________ years of experience" means little, if anything, without the feats to justify it.

In Superman's case, it seems that his feat of fighting for thousands of years in DC Asgard is supposed to mean something when it's dropped half the time, either that he's just as much or close to as being a warrior as the likes of Thor or Hercules or Conan or something or that that stint actually gave him considerable experience fighting or something.

Superman's already skilled and he was both before and after that feat. It's cool that it happened, but it has no real relevance, positive or negative, on him at all, really.

I agree with you here. Experience means absolutely nothing. Feats mean everything. Someone with over a thousand years experience that can't beat Batman in h2h fighting is just a super slow learner or just didn't receive the proper training.

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lol no.

I thought we'd been through this already?

or do you just have a really short memory?

you always deny it...but your actions speak louder than your words imo

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I agree with you here. Experience means absolutely nothing. Feats mean everything. Someone with over a thousand years experience that can't beat Batman in h2h fighting is just a super slow learner or just didn't receive the proper training.

Well said.

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you always deny it...but your actions speak louder than your words imo

Then you'd be wrong.

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Then you'd be wrong.

when's the last time you had a marvel sig?

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when's the last time you had a marvel sig?

The last time I read a Marvel book I enjoyed.

I really, really hope you aren't basing this on sigs, though...

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The last time I read a Marvel book I enjoyed.

I really, really hope you aren't basing this on sigs, though...

no, not only that...but its part of my evidence though

in most close fights, you seem to instinctively go for the dc guy. just my take.

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