WelL notice I said I have no problem "believing" he could...meaning I can't prove it. But given that his punches have accomplished far more impressive things it's not out of the realm of his capabilities. His punched his way out of the phantom zone. That's like saying since the Phoenix 5 haven't killed Thor with one blow that they can't.
Considering Thor has a storied and well documented history of enduring attacks greater than what the Phoenix Five had displayed against him, I do personally doubt that they could kill him in a single blow if he's at his best.
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It's a huge stretch to assume that he'd be amped or otherwise indirectly effected by the Phoenix Force incarnate due to its energy. That's without factoring in all the red stars, too.
But the thing is do stars like Krypton's Red Sun even exist in the Marvel Universe ?
We do know from on-panel evidence that both 616-Earth AND 616-Hala have a Sun identical to DC Earth's Sun .
Is there any on-panel evidence for the existence of a Rao-type Red Sun in the Marvel Universe ?
Red stars exist in the real universe...so I'm not sure why they wouldn't exist in the Marvel Universe.
In any case, I find it extraordinarily implausible that Prime or any Kryptonian would be amped or depowered in any case simply by being close to the Phoenix Force.
Don't forget Sundipped, this isn't the Classic PF. Since 2004 or so it's been retconned down SEVERELY and I'm not just talking about the Xorn/Shi'ar incidents.
Gone are the days of it being a universal (at least) force, it's merely a "cosmic" force now.
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Why can't SBP just beat PF out of them? If he kills them enough, it'll just give up and fly away. Why waste energy repetitiously reforming Muties that will be destroyed again anyway.
My reaction was exactly the same
It's baffling to me how one can claim SBP stomps the entire Phoenix 5 considering their feats and wide range of powers, individually let alone as a team. Also the fact the power of any defeated members is divided up among the remaining hosts amping them even further.
The P5 aren't that impressive...............at all. SBP (leaving out the GA for a min here) has infinitely better fights and feats under his belt. Emma + PF couldn't even control Red Hulk's mind and was shaken when she attempted to read Thor's mind. They'd probably comatose themselves attempting to mindphuck SBP.
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As far as I know, Prime doesn't have any telepathy resistance feats worth of note. Martian Manhunter was able to scan his mind and deduce his plan of universal destruction, iirc.
And? Emma by herself is supposed to be an elite (omega?) level telepath, yet even amped by 1/5 of the PF she couldn't handle what she saw in Thor's mind and she had zero control over Red Hulk. The P5 are failsauce.
She'd probably die attempting to do anything telepathically vs SBP.
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