yeah..that's just your own classification of them...which i don't agree..this 3 is enough to beat any herald..maybe i went overboard in saying they win easily..but Supes doesn't have a chance here..he's not gonna win even once..
That's classification based on their entire histories. Nope, Kal has beaten tougher foes and not winning once? He could stand there and beat all three for at least once using just strength and durability.
I agree with this. Put BM against him alone and things get difficult...hell, looking at BM showings, he could pull some wins. Then add Red Hulk who would be ganging Supes while him and BM go at it and Wonderman who would also be jumping in on a fight against Blue Marvel (who would be giving Superman a run for his money), I can't picture Superman winning this.
Wonderman just beat Rulk without much effort recently..not even Thor is capable of that..anyway..i'm not gonna listen to anything u said when it comes to Supes..u should just give up and leave me with my opinion..
Being me doesn't have anything to do with this. You are clearly ignoring who BM is. Any guy that can physically one shot Sentry with a single punch and launch him past planets isn't to be taken lightly. This doesn't include the fact that he was going against the entire Avengers roster before this.
Then he ripped through Antman, someone that also beasted the Avengers. You are insane to think any Herald wouldnt lose to BM (probably not for the majority, but he can/should be able to pull some wins). The thing you fail to realize is...Superman can not afford any time engaging BM in a long fight (which he doesn't have a choice since, well, BM have the fts proving he can hang with/defeat Heralds) because that leaves an open door for Red Hulk and Wonderman to throw in some licks, which again, Superman can NOT afford this because he is already engaging someone who one shot/flash koed Sentry, he is also going against two other class 100. Superman isn't fighting some idiots here. He is fighting some powerful but yet smart, tactical beings...and one of those beings can toss pieces of metal hard enough to destroy a moon.
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1) You know I don't know all these fancy words. What the heck is expy and =/= mean?
2) So hold on now. You took Supes most generic traits eg; flight, strength, invulnerability and strength and said that anyone who displays those traits can be considered a Supes archetype but then dismissed the notion that strong invulnerable dudes that can't fly, aka bricks, aren't analogous to the Hulk because of a lack of his most distinctive characteristic, emotion/anger based strength? Why the seeming lack of consistent criteria here?
3) If flight, strength, invulnerability, strength are all it takes to be classified as Supes archetypes then by that standard even someone like Classic Nova would be considered one as well since those were exactly his powers at the beginning. But according to Marv Wolfman, it was Spiderman that was mostly the template, along with his own original ideas.
Last edited by dmills on Nov 5th, 2012 at 04:54 AM
Saying these guys won't give Superman a fight and might possibly take some wins (maybe even a majority), is lowballing.
Saying Superman can't win, when he's beaten teams of heralds on multiple occasions, and has the feats of TWO incarnations of Supermen, is also lowballing.
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