Force fields are very different. You don't have to have reflexes.
You can't stop a bullet because you are not fast enough to act. But with a force field you don't have to be.
With 9 it's possible to achieve 7
Remember not only we get Reed's learning ability but his factual knowledge. If any of that knowledge can pertain to reality then we have it.
Also you can't create force fields with 7. That means you can be shot with a bullet and killed.
With 11 you are immortal, can take over the world, and can be rich.
True, once the bullet's in motion. But if you're anticipating being shot, situational awareness, TK style, would protect you, especially once it becomes second nature. And of course, you could still ward off any attack within your reflex speed and power scope.
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Shinier than a speeding bullet.
since 9 is bound by both real world physics and currently extant technology, it isn't even close to comic book superintelligence, while the other powers aren't similarly limited by reality.
11 may grant immortality, but only in inorganic forms, which to me is unnapealing.
7 grants flight, mind-reading and 5 ton remote projection of force (OP didnt specify a distance, but I'm assuming it's field of vision). since there's no limit on fine control, TK manipulation of one's own metabolism allows many physiological improvements, including enhanced damage soak and cicatrization and retarded aging.
Yes 9 is bound by real world physics. But we know next to jack shit about real world physics. Our ignorance of the universe is vast.
If Reed contains knowledge far above us then the potential he can bring is substantial. But I admit it is a risk. It all depends if what he knows coincide with the real world. We have no way of knowing that.
Reed created his technology. All you would need is money. He even created an artificial intelligence to help him.
11 grants riches and the ability to take over the world.
7 may grant flight but you still can't react faster than a bullet. Your reactions just don't increase. You can be killed with utmost ease. Also they have REAL weapons that exert forces far above 5 tons.
LOL, you would have to know how to physiologically improve yourself. This is not possible without genius.
Wrong. There are satellites that can see you anywhere. So what good is TK if you are not going to use it to lead a happier life or achieve your goal in life?
If anyone sees you and reports it then the government will watch you.
Remember TP is limited to 6ft. There could be someone behind you more than 6ft away that you can't detect.
Bottomline:
With TK and TP you would have a hard time being rich or achieving immortality or long life. Plus people get killed anyway by accident.
With 9 you can possibly gain TK and TP if it is universe possible.
Once the bullet is in motion then you are shot. Your reflexes are not fast enough to perceive the bullet the moment it enters the air.
No we don't. Our ignorance is infinite.
The only thing that can be proven impossible is a self contradiction. Did Reed create anything that is a self contradiction?
Everyone would see you have the power if you perform it while they are aware.
It's not possible unless you are genius. No one knows what to do to their dna or molecules to make them better by default. You have a better chance of phucking something up than improving something.
it's like you dont know anything about anything but math.
we do know his shit is impossible, because it contradicts all manner of observable phenomena. most of it is completely imaginary
no one would see anything - TK force is invisible and TP would be likewise undetectable
again, you seem to know next to nothing of our understanding of genetics and physiology. we know a lot about how we heal, age and get sick. with tk, you could stop bleeding, perform surgery, filter pathogens, eliminate viral receptors in cell membranes, accelerate reaction cascades involved in coagulation and cicatrization, alter gene translation, so on and so forth. even lasting benefficial changes at the genetic level are already possible with our understanding of gene sequence, coded content and position in the chromosome. none of which requires comic book genius, only currently existing knowledge.
I'm referring to self contradiction (a paradox). Not something that we think contradict what we see in real life. Our science knowledge is incomplete. We know next to nothing. Stop overestimating real humans.
To make improvements you have to know your own dna and how it works. You also need to know how to change it to make it better (or improved).
I agree you can stop yourself from bleeding or perform surgery (if you know what you are doing) or filter pathogens etc. I thought you were talking about improve yourself like make yourself a superbeing or something (by changing the dna).
The average person don't understand genetics. It takes years of learning just to be competent with it. And even then I'm fairly sure no one knows how to alter the dna to create a superbeing. Maybe they do, but that knowledge isn't widely available.
Do you have any concrete examples of events contradicting observable physical laws? I mean Reed doesn't always state the details of how he created something or achieved something.
Einstein was once thought to be a crackpot. His theory contradicted Newton Laws. But we see that Newton Laws were incomplete.
What 753 is trying to say is all you need is a basic understanding of genetics and physiology to be able to know what cells membranes etc to be able to over ride given your "mental" prowess, i agree
But i also agree with h1a8 that we know next to nothing about pretty much anything, and that earths history is like a tiny tiny blip in space/time
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again, you seem to know next to nothing of our understanding of genetics and physiology. we know a lot about how we heal, age and get sick. with tk, you could stop bleeding, perform surgery, filter pathogens, eliminate viral receptors in cell membranes, accelerate reaction cascades involved in coagulation and cicatrization, alter gene translation, so on and so forth. even lasting benefficial changes at the genetic level are already possible with our understanding of gene sequence, coded content and position in the chromosome. none of which requires comic book genius, only currently existing knowledge.
