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PIS because he can't even physically handle beast in their recent fight.

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PIS because he can't even physically handle beast in their recent fight.

Beast thought Sabretooth had killed his lover, and has had recent upgrades.

Not to mention the fact that Sabretooth won that fight no expression

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Beast thought Sabretooth had killed his lover, and has had recent upgrades.

Not to mention the fact that Sabretooth won that fight

what fight? is it the same fight where sabretooth trashed beast and mocked him?

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Sabertooth is not as strong as Ms. Marvel. Thing is - characters often hurt opponents that are way out of their weight class, that does not mean they're as strong physically. Wolverine beat up Roughhouse, yet I don't see him lifting a bus. Here's a scan of Spider-man oneshotKOing a class 90 Griffin:

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He's got tons of those feats. Still doesn't make him Piotr Rasputin. Saying that Creed is around Mr. Marvel level of strength just because he can trade blows with her is farfetched considering that on average he's depicted around class 10 tops. And he lacks lifting feats to make an argument that he's stronger. Pete on average is stronger.

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PIS because he can't even physically handle beast in their recent fight.

You might want to re-read that issue, because it was Sabretooth effortlessly kicking Beasts ass while shit talking. I don't think Creed was even hit once.

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You might also want to reread Wolverine's many fights with Roughouse, because he struggled a lot before he started using his blades...

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You might also want to reread Wolverine's fight with Roughouse, because he struggled a lot before he started using his blades...

Why "also"? Srank wasn't talking to me. I never even mentioned Beast.

Wolverine traded blows with him and hurt him. That's the point. Also it's just a random example that popped into my head, there are thousands of them in comics. Hurting someone with hits =/= being equelly strong.

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Sabertooth is not as strong as Ms. Marvel. Thing is - characters often hurt opponents that are way out of their weight class, that does not mean they're as strong physically. Wolverine beat up Roughhouse, yet I don't see him lifting a bus. Here's a scan of Spider-man oneshotKOing a class 90 Griffin:

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He's got tons of those feats. Still doesn't make him Piotr Rasputin. Saying that Creed is around Mr. Marvel level of strength just because he can trade blows with her is farfetched considering that on average he's depicted around class 10 tops. And he lacks lifting feats to make an argument that he's stronger. Pete on average is stronger.

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You might also want to reread Wolverine's many fights with Roughouse, because he struggled a lot before he started using his blades...

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What?

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Why "also"? Srank wasn't talking to me. I never even mentioned Beast.

Wolverine traded blows with him and hurt him. That's the point. Also it's just a random example that popped into my head, there are thousands of them in comics. Hurting someone with hits =/= being equelly strong.

Traded blows with Roughouse and hurt him?

I can only think of one incident where Wolverine straight up beat him with his fists, other than that his punches generally don't affect him that much.

I don't disagree with your claim that fighting someone generally doesn't indicate that they're equally strong, but look at Sabretooth's fights...

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Wolverine beat Abomination with fists. He's class 100 now.

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Traded blows with Roughouse and hurt him?

I can only think of one incident where Wolverine straight up beat him with his fists, other than that his punches generally don't affect him that much.

I don't disagree with your claim that fighting someone generally doesn't indicate that they're equally strong, but look at Sabretooth's fights...

It's been awhile but Im positive Wolverine hurt him several times with his hits.

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It's been awhile but Im positive Wolverine hurt him several times with his hits.

The first time Roughouse started laughing. I've only read four of their fights, might be missing one or two.

It doesn't matter much tho, even if Spidey happened to be stronger than Sabretooth, Sabretooth could easily hang with him, given how he hangs with people who are on average, stronger than Spider-Man.

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Wolverine beat Abomination with fists. He's class 100 now.

Abomination is class joke. My grandma could beat him with his fists.

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The first time Roughouse started laughing. I've only read four of their fights, might be missing one or two.

It doesn't matter much tho, even if Spidey happened to be stronger than Sabretooth, Sabretooth could easily hang with him, given how he hangs with people who are on average, stronger than Spider-man.

Oh no argument there, I was just comparing their strength, not saying its a deciding factor in a fight.

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Oh no argument there, I was just comparing their strength, not saying its a deciding factor in a fight.

With the recent way Spidey\s been behaving now, he might be stronger.

Aug 1st, 2013 07:18 PM

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With the recent way Spidey\s been behaving now, he might be stronger.

Here's a nice feat for SpOck. Posted it before but it didn't work for some reason. Poor Gargan.

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