I know it happened. Zoom apparently couldn't use the Cosmic Treadmill to time-travel because he wasn't a true speedster. He had to force Jay Garrick to power it to bring Professor Zoom out of a moment in history. Professor Zoom ended up powering the Cosmic Treadmill thereafter to torment Wally with time-traveling shenanigans. Then a time-traveling Barry managed to pull Professor Zoom back into the timestream, and Zoom tried to power the treadmill on his own and kinda blew up.
The Rome thing sounds familiar, I just remember the treadmill scene more clearly because it was the climax to Geoff Johns Rogue's War storyline.
He doesn't move fast because of speed; he appears to move fast because he messes with the timestream. SO he makes it look as if time is moving fast relative to him, which doesn't explain how he can run around the world, though.
So for example, say it takes you 20 seconds to run 100m (you fat phuck). Zoom would also take 20 seconds, but he controls the rate at which time flows, so relative to him its 20 seconds, but from your perspective, only 1 second has passed.
Zooms blitz sbp then goes to McDonald's for a drink finishes it comes back and punches him at full speed goes BK for a burger finishes it goes and kicks him at full speed then goes to Sonics for some fries finishes them then goes back in time and punches his mom the end.
You asked why he doesn't always hit that hard. I gave you the reason WHY he doesn't always hit that hard. Now you're arguing with the reason, too? Lol.
Wally usually holds back as well. That doesn't stop him from fighting to his full potential on KMC.
His best showing of punching-power is delivering multiple Superman-level punches. Why on earth you're equating Dianna not being KO'd by said punches into a low feat for Zoom is beyond me. Frankly, you're doing everything you can to low-ball Zoom at this point. It's just silly, tbh.
He holds back against most opponents, because he only wants to make them betterrrr. So yes, he does pull his punches when he needs to. If he were to hit Impulse, for example, with a Superman-level punch, he'd be splattered all over the sidewalk-- but killing heroes isn't Zoom's M.O.
...But Prime isn't a hero, so Zoom's methodology could possibly change-- especially if he gets basic knowledge of Prime before the battle.
So Dianna was lying... To herself? Lol.
It's not the same at all, actually. You're just being silly for no reason at all.
Prime 'retconned reality' because he was in a place where he could literally punch/break the physical 'walls' of reality. He didn't just start punching thin are, and *poof* reality was retconned.
Because Superman /w/ Doomsday enhancements, and Superman /w/ a sunamp is what Dianna was comparing Zoom's punches to, right?
Lol, stop being silly.
He hits her five times with Superman-level punches that we can see. Five times=/="countless, countless times", like you said.
Furthermore, concluding that he hit her anymore then that is yet another unsubstantiated conclusion on your end.
When did I say anything like that? The problem here is you're SO butthurt that you've ceased making sense.
You not liking that it happened, doesn't change the fact that it still happened.
No, I admitted that I can low-ball you right back-- because frankly, that's all you've done thus far. If I wanted to be like you, I could bring up Wonder Girl faring well against Prime... But I won't.
Anywho,
Conner consistently smacks Prime around, and pretty much everyone would agree that Connor<<Superman.
But most importantly: speedsters ALWAYS slap Prime around, and he usually flees from them.
What does this mean? It means that Prime's fear of his opponents can make him crumble where he otherwise would not... And he's never faced a speedster nearly as fast as Zoom.
Zoom also shit-stomps Flashes... a lot in comics. Hell, it took Bart merging with the entire effing speed force, and a hugely amped Wally, just to contend with Zoom... But you don't like mentioning that kind of stuff. No, you prefer mentioning only his lower feats and/or low-balling the hell out of the feats he has.
You: "Kal punched Zoom in the face and he shrugged it off? Big deal, cuz Dianna bloodied him up years earlier!"
You: "Zoom threw multiple Superman-level punches at Dianna? Big deal, cuz she wasn't even KO'd by them!"
You: "Zoom was able to toy with a team consisting of Superman+Batman+Hal+Dianna, and troll them in the process? Big deal, cuz he didn't own all of them!"
Crikey!
See above. You're low-balling just to low-ball, while at the same time not telling me HOW Prime will win. Silly.
In a versus battle, yes, Prime WILL be a statue in comparison.
So he can spin around in a circle really fast and tag speedsters who aren't even remotely close to Zoom's level of speed? Great. It's odd that he didn't preform that little trick the several other times that speedsters have blitzed him.
That feat is enough for you to conclude that Prime's reactions are greater than the characters who've 'tagged' Zoom? Lol.
Anyway, here's some feats for Zoom(more can be provided if need be)...
But yeah, none of that matters. Prime will evidently just walk up and hit Zoom, because Zoom's been hit before. Love the logic.
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Anyway, that ridiculous wall-o-text will be my last post on the subject(sorry for that, btw)... I'm just talking in circles now. You can have the last word.
Superman wasn't enhanced in WW 175 (Circe merely gave his rage a physical appearance and that's what those spikes are for) and neither was he sun amped in WW 219. Wonder Woman saying Zoom punches harder than Superman directly contradicts what was shown under the same writer. That's all.
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