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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So....CIP. As in, in character, he wouldn't dare do it. I mean, nobody here says that Superman lobotomises people at the start of the bell, or Flash rips their hearts out at lightspeed...
It would not effect his universe so he probably would not care, atom has also shown to increasingly lose his humanity and realizes he is above it.
Nov 26th, 2014 09:04 PM
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So proof that he would willingly go around altering people's timelines a la Zoom?
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
If he can travel in time to a point where hulk has not existed yet and kills banner, hulk would never exist. Do you really not understand how time travel works? It would work but it would let off a string of event and change a bunch of things, the butterfly effect. It would still work.
Atom has also shown to be able to be able to completely change the molecules of things.
HOW DOES HULK BEAT HIM? YOU HAVE STILL NOT GIVEN AN ANSWER AS TO HOW HULK BEATS ANYONE ON THIS LIST.
Every thing that you said is based on the imagination of a science fiction
Writer is what I am saying to you. We have not ever been able to time
travel in our real life. So what I have said was that one science fiction
writer says that it would work, and then another says that it would not
work. One writer believes that he would kill a Banner, but not the one
attached to the one that Captain Atom would be currently (present
time) be engaging. While another science fiction writer believes that
if he did kill Banner of the past that it would erase his entire timeline.
No future. Therefore since we have two diverging theories from two
different science fiction writers we are stuck in a science fiction
stalemate with no proof of either working, because both were written
into canon. Choose something that you can prove 100%, because I
can argue one way, and you another.
We do know that the Hulk can grab intangible beings, and beings
composed entirely of energy. The Hulk did it when he fought the
Sentry, ZZaxxx, when he punched time barriers, and energy barriers
that could not be normally touched.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Every thing that you said is based on the imagination of a science fiction
Writer is what I am saying to you. We have not ever been able to time
travel in our real life. So what I have said was that one science fiction
writer says that it would work, and then another says that it would not
work. One writer believes that he would kill a Banner, but not the one
attached to the one that Captain Atom would be currently (present
time) be engaging. While another science fiction writer believes that
if he did kill Banner of the past that it would erase his entire timeline.
No future. Therefore since we have two diverging theories from two
different science fiction writers we are stuck in a science fiction
stalemate with no proof of either working, because both were written
into canon. Choose something that you can prove 100%, because I
can argue one way, and you another.
We do know that the Hulk can grab intangible beings, and beings
composed entirely of energy. The Hulk did it when he fought the
Sentry, ZZaxxx, when he punched time barriers, and energy barriers
that could not be normally touched.
Lol, proof, YOU KEEP SAYING SH*T ABOUT THIS SCIENCE "FICTION" WRITERS THEORY WHEN YOU HAVE NOT EVEN PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE HAS SAID THIS.
EVEN IF ATOM CANNOT DO THIS HE CAN TRANSPORT HULK TO AN EMPTY UNIVERSE, OR PUT HIM IN SPACE, OR COMPLETELY CHANGE HIS ATOMS, OR ABSORB ALL OF HIS GAMMA RADIATION.
I SEE YOU ARE STILL IGNORING MY QUESTION, HOW DOES HULK WIN?
Nov 26th, 2014 09:25 PM
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It does not matter if hulk can grab energy, atom is much faster AND CANT BE HARMED PHYSICALLY.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So proof that he would willingly go around altering people's timelines a la Zoom?
He does not need to do this, he could also just bfr hulk to another dimension, maybe to a uninhabited planet in that dimension.
Of course atom could just bfr him and throw him in space, change every single one of hulks atoms, absorb all of hulks gamma radiation.
atom has a billion ways to win, how does hulk?
Nov 26th, 2014 09:28 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
Lol, proof, YOU KEEP SAYING SH*T ABOUT THIS SCIENCE "FICTION" WRITERS THEORY WHEN YOU HAVE NOT EVEN PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE HAS SAID THIS.
EVEN IF ATOM CANNOT DO THIS HE CAN TRANSPORT HULK TO AN EMPTY UNIVERSE, OR PUT HIM IN SPACE, OR COMPLETELY CHANGE HIS ATOMS, OR ABSORB ALL OF HIS GAMMA RADIATION.
I SEE YOU ARE STILL IGNORING MY QUESTION, HOW DOES HULK WIN?
Read Future Imperfect. One writer says one thing, the other says another. If Captain Atom travels back in time he self BFR's himself. because there is no proof that his out of character stunt would work. Unless you're saying that Nate has become a homicidal maniac. You're problem is that you debate solely on power set, and nearly always turn off CIS in order for you to battle in your favored characters stead. That's not how it works unless you turn off CIS in the OP.
However like I said, there are two viable, yet conflicting opinions, and both are canon. Which one do we go with? How about this, if your theory is correct, the Hulk would never get past Nate, and he wouldn't kill Banner, he would simply save Rick, and Banner from the blast that turned him into the Hulk in the first place.
If not, he self BFR's.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
He does not need to do this, he could also just bfr hulk to another dimension, maybe to a uninhabited planet in that dimension.
Of course atom could just bfr him and throw him in space, change every single one of hulks atoms, absorb all of hulks gamma radiation.
atom has a billion ways to win, how does hulk?
So you admit he wouldn't do this? And you were just debating off powerset, ignoring the character?
Thought so. Another victory for me!!!
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:36 PM
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Actually depending on what munitions and stock Deathstroke has access to, Hulk potentially dies at #2.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you admit he wouldn't do this? And you were just debating off powerset, ignoring the character?
Thought so. Another victory for me!!!
Are you a dumbass, i said if it did not work, not that he was in character.
Atom might not care about f*cking up that universe especially now because his morals are so loose.
You never won, how did you win, i still proved atom could win in multiple other ways.
What are you even arguing about.
troll logic is not real logic.
Nov 26th, 2014 09:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
Are you a dumbass, i said if it did not work, not that he was in character.
Atom might not care about f*cking up that universe especially now because his morals are so loose.
You never won, how did you win, i still proved atom could win in multiple other ways.
What are you even arguing about.
troll logic is not real logic.
Lol, Atom 'might not'. Back it up with proof that he would go around messing with people's timelines.
Oh wait, you have none. Like your credibility on these threads.
This is like the third time you have insulted me and called me a troll.
Do it one more time, and I will actually use the report button for bashing and besmirching my good name.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:45 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Read Future Imperfect. One writer says one thing, the other says another. If Captain Atom travels back in time he self BFR's himself. because there is no proof that his out of character stunt would work. Unless you're saying that Nate has become a homicidal maniac. You're problem is that you debate solely on power set, and nearly always turn off CIS in order for you to battle in your favored characters stead. That's not how it works unless you turn off CIS in the OP.
However like I said, there are two viable, yet conflicting opinions, and both are canon. Which one do we go with? How about this, if your theory is correct, the Hulk would never get past Nate, and he wouldn't kill Banner, he would simply save Rick, and Banner from the blast that turned him into the Hulk in the first place.
If not, he self BFR's.
And yet you ignore all of the other ways i stated orion could win AND STILL IGNORE MY QUESTION OF HOW HULK CAN WIN.
Nov 26th, 2014 09:45 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, Atom 'might not'. Back it up with proof that he would go around messing with people's timelines.
Oh wait, you have none. Like your credibility on these threads.
This is like the third time you have insulted me and called me a troll.
Do it one more time, and I will actually use the report button for bashing and besmirching my good name.
Your good name? You admitted to trolling, stfu.
Are you even arguing for someone? If not go troll somewhere else.
Nov 26th, 2014 09:47 PM
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Actually depending on how exotic Hawkman is with the mace, he could end Hulk at #1.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
Your good name? You admitted to trolling, stfu.
Are you even arguing for someone? If not go troll somewhere else.
Quote me where I allegedly 'admitted to trolling'.
Reported.
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:48 PM
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No one reported this guy yet?
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Nov 26th, 2014 09:52 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Quote me where I allegedly 'admitted to trolling'.
Reported.
Go to aquaman vs hulk
I said this:
"Yup you are trolling, a neither of them were effected so there is no comparison to make.
good job troll."
and the next post you said this:
"I joke, I joke - I'm just finding this entertaining."
trolls do what they do to entertain them self and your comment shows that you admitted you were trolling after my accusation.
Nov 26th, 2014 09:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
No one reported this guy yet?
Hmm do you get reported for coming in a thread saying who wins based off bias and then leaving after you cannot provide a reason as to how that person wins.
F*ck off carver.
Nov 26th, 2014 09:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
No one reported this guy yet?
Difference of paradigm, and others choice to not align with yours does not equate to trolling.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Board Walker
Difference of paradigm, and others choice to not align with yours does not equate to trolling.
"Superman pushed the multiverse and we see universes in the eyes of Ganthet before he died because that was a sign of of him being pushed through the multiverse".
Famous words of boardwalker.
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