I wonder what it is he thinks that makes the sith teachings weak and archaic. Or rather, what his ideal empire is. Complete and utter servitude ala Palpatine and the citizens of Byss?
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Everybody won't be treated all the same.
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Fioufuu.... So since tenebrae acomplished teh ritual he died????? Like many sith before him.. Like nihilus was dying???
That's why Vitiate is the Dark side incarnated...
"Il rencontre l'Empereur de "Vrais Siths" qui termine sa formation côté obscur et en fait un Sith, lui commande de localiser un vieil artefact nommé la Forge Stellaire puis d'affaiblir et désorganiser la République afin de préparer le retour des "Vrais Siths" dans l'espace républicain (aider ),"
Empereur des Vrais Siths
L'Empereur des "Vrais Siths" en personne a été l'un de ses Maîtres, lorsqu'il a découvert l'Empire sur Dromund Kaas.
Toutefois, après avoir vaincu les mandaloriens, il découvre l'Empire des "Vrais Siths" en poursuivant les derniers mandaloriens. Il rencontre l'Empereur qui lui injecte par la Force une personnalité totalement Obscure et lui enseigne de manière accélérée les pouvoirs Sith et peut-être même la magie Sith. Il l'envoie réactiver la Forge Stellaire et attaquer la République Galactique afin de la déstabiliser et l'affaiblir, en vue de préparer le retour des "Vrais Siths" dans l'espace républicain.
And they had that this brain washing via accelarated sith teaching keep Revan Dark Even after falling into amnesia, in the other hand Many event suggest that Revan have plan to partially delete his memories way before he even encounter Vitiate, and feint his defeat... This partial erase of memories keep his knowledge intact and free him from vitiate hand... And again what I had prooven confirm that theory since such planification are in range of Revan sight.
Except Vitiate had to keep the DC fighting among themselves to keep them busy and avoid being overthrown. As much as his will was absolute, he wasn't literally worshipped(excluding his personal cult) in the Sith Empire.
Yeah he was. This isn't about the Dark Council, this is about the plebs they all rule over, which includes a vast majority of the Sith Empire. "Live for the Emperor, die for the Emperor." is a legit saying and they take it pretty seriously.
Obvioulsy, the difference between his two empires isn't huge but in his first Empire, the people followed him under the banner of Sith. At the end of the day, his will was absolute because he represented the embodiment of that culture since he was the most powerful one amongst them by far. This however, still means that they cared about other things as well and not just the Emperor. In his new Empire, people appear to be more directly devoted to him than an alignment of the Force.
Nah, it's just dumb, because the people in Zakuul cared about things other than Valkorion before he got there, and look how that ended in matter of a few centuries. I find it extremely hard to believe that if he wanted to, Valkorion couldn't reshape the remnant Sith Empire in over a thousand years.
Except hardly anyone gave a shit when he died. Sith are motivated largely by self-interest. A lot of them followed him purely because they fear him and know their place. This is something fundamental about the Sith, they are power-hungry sociopaths who put their personal agenda's above that of the Empire.
Hardly anyone cared, yep. Which is definitely why they kept it a secret. And duct day, "They were trying to hide it from the Republic," as to why that is. The Republic obviously knew.
They kept it a secret because "this one Jedi massacred her way into the Imperial capital and killed the Emperor in a duel" would likely be pretty demoralising. Marr even says that Vitiate wasn't well liked and no-one will miss him.
I was unaware you played the expansion to know how the people in Zakuul treat him, Sinious. Blind devotion is something the Sith Empire did, and something that Marr was critical of before the Emperor went Stupid Evil.
Again, why would they need to say that when they could just say, "The Emperor is dead." you know kind of like the how the Republic did. Because the story of, "One Jedi Knight and his band of friends" is told to like five people. And Marr didn't say Vitiate wasn't liked. He said no one would miss an Emperor that abandoned them, a statement that obviously isn't true given the vastly outnumbering accounts of people who literally worship Vitiate.
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Acknowledging that the Emperor had been killed would have been a blow to morale no matter what they said, as it demonstrates the strength of the Jedi and Republic to be capable of killing even the godlike Emperor. Satele says that it was a Jedi strike team.
Vitiate had a few cults but the majority of Sith don't give two shits about his glory. Sith are almost always in it for themselves. Even barring Vitiate himself, the Sith are plagued by infighting. Which was why they were losing to the Republic. Its easy to see why Vitiate would regard the order as flawed.
Apparently they don't care though, so not seeing the problem that the Emperor can be killed when a Republic fleet suddenly attacks the seat of the Empire. That should be the biggest blow to moral. Unless you're ready to admit they actually do care. That works too.
Which is contradictory to what you just said above. Why do the vast majority of Sith and Imperial citizens show respect when it's do, but also not care at all? Unless they do care, and while they may fight amongst themselves, they obviously realize that Vitaite is far above them that fighting to attain that is pointless. Vitiate isn't just an Emperor, he's a symbol of the Empire, which is why Scourge and the Wrath are also seen as important because they're supposed to personify the Emperor's will, along with a few other select people. But nah, I'm sure they teach the kids on Dromund Kaas about how they'll all be Emperor one day. Seems pretty legit.
They care in that he's monstrously powerful and in charge of everything. He's the absolute authority in the Empire. So they fear and obey him and his agents and him getting taken out is a pretty seriously bad thing for the Empire.
They don't care in that few Sith hold real loyalty to him and wouldn't put his interests above their own without the fear of reprisal. Marr clearly doesn't have much loyalty to the Emperor, but he still refused to risk offending him when the Wrath challenged Baras. The Sith don't "worship" him or any crap like that and I'm pretty sure most Sith do dream of displacing him because that's how the megalomaniacal lunatics think.
The Old Ways of Zakuul: Before Valkorion's rise to power, Zakuul was a backwater planet in Wild Space with almost no contact with the rest of the galaxy. Forced to settle in bogs and swamps, early Zakuulans were a superstitious, nihilistic people who worshipped a pantheon of ruthless gods. These deities expressed their power through the pain and suffering of their followers. The pantheon's father was Izax, the god of death and the Ultimate Devourer. The ancient Zakuulans believed their fate was tied to the will of the gods and belonged to Izax. Those who challenged this view were considered demons. While most Demons were outcasts and expelled from society, a prophecy emerged claiming that one would climb beyond Izax's reach--an immortal god of gods who would topple the pantheon and usher in a new age for Zakuul. Claiming to be the Demon Savior of prophecy, Valkorion began his campaign against the Old Ways.
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