wow, so you are ignoring on panel evidence. I just showed Superman hv doing stuff beyond anything Surfer has tanked. And Superman still can't hurt him? I just proved that if hv can go through a being with greater durability feats like a hot knife though butter then it can surfer.
Stop trolling and debate by rebutting the evidence by providing counter evidence and not just ignoring evidence. If you have any feats by Surfer to prove he can withstand temperatures thousands of times hotter than a star (not even Planck temperature) then please do so.
THousands of times hotter than a star???? And you actually want someone to waste their time trying to debate you with all your outlandish statements about superman?
HV'ing the absolute 0 freeze ray would be the ultimate feat IRL; not so much in a comic. Is Captain Cold's gun supposed to be some sort of skyfather level weapon now?
HV thousands of times hotter than the sun? Huge reach there. I say BS
HV Repairing a rip in reality and being hotter than the pits of Hades. What do these things even mean or matter in the scenario?
Area of effect HV and melting Thor's axe. Meh
Moving a planet. Meh
I know that arguing with you about anything Superman-related is a massive waste of time but I figured I'd respond since you took the time to post those scans. I Didn't, nor have I ever, seen a single thing that suggests that HEAT vision can burn though Silver Surfer like a hot knife through butter.
That heating the planet feat was a sundipped Superman.
That repairing the rip in reality feat was when Superman and Orion had their size altered to abstract sizes via the Boomtube. They were so big that planets were literally the size of "specks" of dust, and Superman said at his normal size he'd be a microbe.
Also none of H1's scans show Superman's HV cutting through high heralds like butter, lol.
If Surfer can't win a blasting fight against Superman then an all out fight, Superman should slaughter him 10/10. Don't get it. Blasting is Surfers game. It's what he does. How can he not beat a Herald in a battle like this. Superman is either trans tier...high trans or he is getting wanked like hell here.
Ok. Why nitpick when this doesn't destroy the others?
Prove that Surfer can tank heat beyond thousands of times hotter than a star.
I posted a scan of hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman isn't a high Herald now? Superman has the same feats of resisting heat as Surfer (possibly better).
And it's funny how many give Marvel characters the benefit of the doubt (no feats) and not D.C.character. Superman melted a gods magical axe (Thor) yet it doesn't count to proving HV can hurt Surfer?
Man on Earth can create temperatures and also lasers that can reach thousands of times hotter than the sun. Yet the scan I posted said that Superman's hv is beyond anything they can measure. Surfer simply has no feats on that level.
I showed hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman has the same feats (or better) than Surfer in resisting heat. So why still disagree? You are simply ignoring on panel evidence. At least give a counter feat that shows Surfer durability withstanding Superman's output.
Question ABHI. Doomsday ripped apart the same probes. Do you think Doomsday could one shot kill Superman in the same fashion? Punching his head off...etc.
Obviously Superman's more powerful at abstract level size. Superman was so large he could crush dozens of planets between his fingers since they were literally smaller than specks. Superman is normal sized here, he's not abstract size where humans are microbes in comparison.
Those are Zod and Chris Kent's feats, not transferable to Superman. A blood-lusted Superman couldn't pierce through Wonder Woman's face (only to her bones) with his HV and it didn't stop her. I guess Diana's face is more durable than those particular probes lol.
Like usual you make outlandish claims without actual proof.
Nothing in your post suggest Superman's HV is thousands of times hotter than the sun. Whats funny is Surfer has literally said that he's basked in the glow of a thousand suns after no-selling a blast from Korvac that would incinerate a planet.
Another person's HV going through Superman doesn't mean Superman gets that feat. Feats aren't transferable.
Melting DC's Thor's axe doesn't mean much, it's not like it's equal to Marvel Thor's Mjolnir which has a laundry list of feats under it. So what durability feats does that axe have?
Sure later on I'll give instances later on of people no-selling Superman's heat vision and citing heat resistance as the reason.
Surfer's heat and energy durability is top-notch. Not only is he durable and virtually immune to heat, he can choose to absorb the HV to make himself stronger (like he's done numerous times), or use his silvery skin to reflect it (like he's done numerous times).
You take the real-life idea that Man can produce temperatures and lasers "thousands of times hotter than the sun", combine that with the statement of a reporter in a comic book, and insist that this is proof that that heat vision will burn right through Silver Surfer?
So, you are suggesting that Man on Earth can make weapons to incinerate SS with? And by extension, the other more advanced and warlike races in the Marvel Universe could do the same or better? So, SS should be one-shot by any random enemy soldier with a laser gun, right? Geez, how has Silver Surfer survived this long with so many instant death rays everywhere?
I didn't ignore anything. I am just not twisting scenes and making huge leaps to make Superman appear all-powerful and unbeatable. He is neither. Throwing out equations or statements like "thousands of times hotter than the sun" is not convincing me otherwise.
Also, take that reporters words with a pinch of salt. I mean, if we're using RL logic, its not as if our news reporters don't use sensationalism and hyperbole, eh?
Not sure about this one. I recall Surfer being cut up like cheese squares by a laser. I've completely forgotten the full context as I read it a very long time ago, so I'm not sure if the Surfer was weakened during that scene? However, I do recall that he was still able to function even in that state.
Can absorb or deflect a near-infinite amount of Firelord's fire. Note: Firelord's heat is based on Galactus' alien science. http://i.imgur.com/3Jp2jTn.jpg
Unfazed by Nova's (herald) flames inside a machine that uses her heat against her: http://imgur.com/a/NorqD#6
I've never really seen heat based attacks affect Surfer except maybe Firelord, but his heat isn't regular heat--it's based of Galactus' alien science and is actually cosmic energy. Surfer should tank/absorb/reflect HV just fine.
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