No he cut Symphira from her solar energy, that's not draining.
Anyway, you do concede that your statement that it's only in character for Surfer to drain people in regards to using energy manipulation to exploit vulnerabilities in his opponents is patently false?
Draining against the Hulk IS weakness exploitation abhi.
Your line of reasoning is silly. I mean how many times does Supes have to be hit by people without superspeed to prove that it's not in character for him to use it defensively?
No he chose to leave because it was the easier and safer option.
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No I'm arguing the level to which an ability is consistantly shown and abhi and arguing a character outright "forgetting" abilities for the sake of the plot.
So in Surfer's case it's the plot's fault, while in Superman's case is that it's not consistent - according to your vast knowledge of Superman's history, of course!
Holy double-standards, Batman!
This will go sideways for you, when it's shown that if anybody is doing the draining, it's Superman.
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And there we go!
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Somehow, I doubt goob even has an idea what kryptonite is.
Firestorm, while sitting at a table, uninterrupted and seeing it first-hand [i.e. NOT being speedblitzed by Superman mid-battle] took a while and multiple tries just to create one chunk:
Do you have scans of the instance? Again, I'm all but positive that's what happened. If you don't it's cool, I can ask Ambient for them I just figured I'd check with you first.
Is that dodge you way of conceding the fact that the notion that Surfer never uses any form of weakness exploitation other than draining is false?
From one plot to another lol
I can show it's within his character to do so simply with his exchange with Glads.
Stop trying to set the terms to match your predetermined conclusion, has he exploited the weaknesses of others multiple times or not?
He ended up not having to because he was able to simply trap him on the planet.
Surfer has to know the make-up of what he is creating, too - and there's no proof that his Cosmic Awareness enables him to look at Superman's DNA, deduce the weakness [how and why?] and then create kryptonite, one of the most complex elements in the DCU in mid-fight. And Firestorm, even while knowing the configuration, had a hard time creating it on the spot, and it took practice.
Saying that the Gladiator scene[who may have known of Gladiator's weakness in the first place - there's no proof he scanned him] means that he suddenly could do the same with Superman, just because the word 'radiation' was mentioned in relation to Gladiator is a false equivalence.
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Last edited by Philosophía on Oct 30th, 2017 at 07:43 PM
Surfer ain't making K-Nite. It doesn't even exist in his universe. Even if he did it would be of his universe's making and wouldn't affect Supes anyway.
Red sun radiation is a different matter however, Surfer should know about that pretty easily.
Still, tanking the absorbtion of galaxy levels of anti-sunlight > What Surfer will conjure up.
His resistance is inconsistent, yes. Surfer has things about him that are inconsistent as well, and for those things we try to establish an average. Forgetting powers that would end a fight quickly though... don't we have a specific term for that kind of thing?
No he doesn't. He's got nothing to support the idea that he has the technical knowledge to build a spaceship from the ground up yet he's built spaceships with the power cosmic. Hell there was even an instance where he was without powers and a lady asked him if he could operate a computer and he flat out said that he could if he had his power cosmic but couldn't without it.
Easiest way to beat someone is to exploit their weakness especially if said character or characters have very specific ones. Either that or there's a matchup mismatch based on powerset that gives one character a distinct advantage over the other.
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