Cain has walked on air before. If bff is off D'S, doesn't that mean that they are in a container of some size? Wow so that means that Cain can rebound off of the surface right? No matter, he'd outlast him. Good attempt at trolling me though. Cain wins no matter how you attempt to twist it. Immortality.
Wait....no it doesn't mean that. BFR off doesn't mean anything about a container, lol.
Otherwise, if that was all that was present, one could argue Ronan teleports Cain away.
It just means that Ronan sending him away doesn't net him a win.
Immortality doesn't mean he wins either....otherwise, Lobo/Gladiator would be a short thread. Mr Immortal vs Thanos. Deadpool vs Batman.
If Ronan makes him float in midair, unable to do anything to even bother Ronan...that's an incapacitation.
Like Spiderman webbing Batman up. No one is hurt, no one is KOd...but Spiderman is standing there, cracking yo mamma jokes, and Batman is there crying.
Ronan isn't hardly as tactical as you're trying to make him out. Go on ahead and believe the lies that you're spewing, but Ronan loses this. He either loses fast or it takes a long time. With BFR off Cain would eventually reach him. It could take days but Ronan will need to sleep. Cain as I mentioned can walk on air, and has done so on panel. You seem to want to pull up a BS showing for Cain while using Ronan's best. Do you want me to do the same? You want to use the brazier that made Cain scream in pain as him at his best? How about him getting beaten up by the Beast, but then taking on WW Hulk. Wait the brazier hurt him but when he fought Spider Man he's seen covered in flames without taking note of them. So as I said in my first post, if you're going to use Cain at his worst while using Ronan's best, then sure Ronan wins. However I wasn't under the impression that this was how it worked. I told you before DS, don't play head games with me because I'll just ignore you.
Cancellation of gravity? Proved.
Juggy needing a foothold? Proved.
You misunderstood my scan...I wasn't proving braziers would hurt him, I was show casing how he needs a foothold to physically step on.
You haven't proved Juggy walking on air....so don't say I'm trolling or using mind games, when I'm actually being serious at attempting a solid debate with you.
can you provide a scan of him walking on air? The only time that I recall him doing it was when he had Kuurth's hammer. Yes, bfr is off but Ronan doesn't need to bfr him. He just needs to incapacitate him long enough to reach a ten count. He could literally just end this fight by putting him in an absolute zero force field.
Cain walked on air when he fought the Zen during the Onslaught saga if if I'm not mistaken. Again bfr is off therefore Ronan will eventually lose against Cain who we all know is immortal and unstoppable. Sending him into space will not stop him from returning. Cain walked in space back to Earth back in the day. Darksaint surely has the scans but providing them will throw all kinds of monkey wrenches into the stance that he has chosen. Again if we are using Ronans best while using Cains worst then sure Cain loses. But, let's not pretend that Ronan thinks like Bruce Banner, or has tactics like Captain America.
Just because he can toss Cain up into the air does not mean that he wins this. It only means that he has prolonged the fight. Cain can and will return due to the clause in the OP. No BFR.
So Ronan gets tired eventually. What happens when he has to sleep for a few hours? Cain does not tire, or hunger. He would eventually reach Ronan .
How is he going to incapacitate Cain? Transmute his clothes? He certainly won't be knocking him out. Cain can take far more damage than Ronan has ever dished.
We're three pages in and you still haven't understood what's being said. I'll make this simple. I AM NOT SAYING THAT RONAN WILL TRANSMUTE ANYTHING. I AM SAYING THAT HE WILL PUT CAIN IN A FIELD OF ABSOLUTE ZERO. You know, like he did to Nova.
'But Deathslash', you say to me. 'Nova isn't as strong as Juggernaut.'
I'll then reply with 'Ah, but my dear friend, she doesn't have to be. We already know what has happened to Juggernaut the one and only time that he's been hit with absolute zero. He was incapacitated long enough for the cops to show up and take him away. Cain is literally batting at 0% as far as resistance to the very thing that Ronan has already shown he can do."
Moreover, you seem to be so hell bent on "damage that can be dished out" that you're missing the forest for the trees. Juggernaut is slow, has no range, is slower than 98% of the characters that Ronan has fought, and has no answer to being incapacitated. Hell, Juggernaut has already shown a susceptibility to having his clothes transmuted. That's how Brother Voodoo beat him when the avengers fought him.
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I honestly don't have those scans, and nor did I find them in his respect threads (on Reddit, KMC or aminoapps). So I hand on heart, can say I don't know what instances you're talking about.
I've actually shown Ronan....doing that (cancelling gravity). So your point about his tactical thinking is moot, because he DOES do exactly that. No pretending at all.
And your point about the time is a strange one. Say Spiderman webs Deadpool up....and Deadpool is unable to affect Spiderman. Let's amp his webbing, so it lasts a while.
In YOUR reasoning, Deadpool wins, because eventually, after many years, Spidey will die and the webbing will dissolve, and DP will eventually break free....
I'm saying that Cain can walk out of that field, or did you have trouble comprehending that he did this to Jean Grey when she help him in mid air. He has also walked to Earth while in deep space. So again how is he going to do this? Cain as I mentioned is unstoppable at his best, while Nova has never been. Are we comprehending each other yet?
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