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Senor Cage
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Cheetah eats him.

Old Post Jan 24th, 2019 10:43 AM
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Whose gonna stop Cheetah and Parasite?


Ikr

It's Like, Too Easy.

The Parasite will absorb E.V.A. and every little thing the writers know and do not know about Chuck's clever little nervous system and how to use it like hot toast on butter.

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Actually in hindsight maybe Fantomex can do misdirection on Parasite. It's been a long time since I read X-force but I think Fantomex was able to trick an Apocalypse ship and as far as I'm aware that's Celestial tech. Eventhough Parasite absorbed Brainiacs universal telepathy maybe Fantomex's power will work because of the decpetive nature of the powers. If it works he could get Parasite to drain Cheetah. However I'm kinda skeptical of Parasite absorbing Brainiacs universal telepathy cos it makes him sound invincible I suspect there are other showings that are less impressive. For starters how is Parasite going to know that there is anything to absorb?

Maybe Archangel can fly into the air before Cheetah can get to him and engage with Cheetah while he is in the air. This is the only possible scenerio which i could see X-force winning. How fast is Cheetah she's not FTL is she? Archangel has superhuman reflexes and a bloodlusted Archangel made it difficult for X-force to follow in the Blackbird. The blackbird moves at supersonic speed.


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Manta is going to look Birdie right in the eye and shoot him right out the sky (if he even allows his animal themed buddy to get airborne)

Manta is just gonna Omni Blast X-Force
They're Not Gonna See Hear Or Feel Cheetah Coming
And They Won't Know Parasite Is Feeding On Them Until Its All Over.

Inside Wolverine the early stages of a thought will begin to form To Charge Forward! coz he's Wolvy and he has got to show all these young whipper-snappers how its done. Ditto Wade, a neuron or two will commence prep-work on an impulse To Charge! and of course to draw on the charge + say something clever cuz he's not going to be out-done by some old man with whiskers - not a good look for his Image.

They'll probably register something brushing against them a decisecond to a millisecond after Manta optic beam connects (Parasite Thrown Forward in a fastball special by Cheetah) and immediately black out after being tagged by Cheetah herself leaving them dead on their feet for Deathstroke to take a free hit at and Deadshot to blast every vital organ they have before they've hit the ground.

btw

Psylocke is probably not going to be alive long enough for Parasite to feed well.

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In hindsight I think X-force can get some wins but Suicide Squad for the majority. This thread is actually better than I thought.


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Parasite's absorption is pretty hax. Not only did he absorb Brainiac's universal telepathy, he was also absorbing a good portion of the Speed Force.

He absorbed only a portion of it, and it was from a comatose Lois, who had the powers herself, and was overloaded by it. He also admitted he has poor control over psionic energy, and Superman pointed out that he'd take time to understand how to use it.
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Only to discover he'd actually drained his team

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He has zero counter to Fantomex's misdirect.

Parasite has an unclear relationship to psionic energy, but I'm not convinced Psylocke can't mindscrew him. Or make him think he's draining everyone despite having his powers disabled like she did to Omega Red. Or just psi-blading him.

We've already seen Pied Piper mind control him, granted it's a slightly different mechanism at play.
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Psylocke is probably not going to be alive long enough for Parasite to feed well.

In my view, Psylocke can one shot most of that team by literally thinking "sleep." In a forum setting, Cheetah is the only thing stopping that.

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It's not like Parasite hasn't absorbed psychic energy before. He overloaded, yes, but Brainiac's power (even a portion of it) is beyond Psylock's.

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Shouldn't use Pied Piper's example, as he uses the Anti-Life equation, IIRC.

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BTW, Psylocke ordering Parasite to sleep won't stop Parasite from absorbing energy, since he can still absorb energy while unconscious.

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That's pre 52.

Plus, let's not pretend like Parasite is some genius....He's thicker than two short planks nailed together. Prime candidate for misdirection.


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Parasite still absorbed psychic energy post flashpoint. And it depends how much he will absorb from Fantomex beforehand. Fantomex would be a light snack. Fantomex is good, but he can still be defeated.

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But how would he know where to absorb from??

Fantomex was misdirecting a multiversal reality warper, iirc.

Power levels don't matter here....It's power set that's the problem.

Yes, Parasite can absorb surrounding energy in a giant AoE attack that likely kills his team mates as well.

But if he tries that (highly unlikely), the way it works is that he would only THINK he's draining psychic or whatever energy. But in reality he's just sitting there doing nothing. Fantomex is like the Black Mercy plant in DC. For all of Superman's powers, for example, once it's on you and you are being misdirected by it, nothing you say or do or sense is actually real.

Parasite would believe he's winning. That he's draining everyone and getting more powerful....But the misdirection means he's literally just sitting there.


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Manta's Optic Blast

Psylocke Archangel Fantomex

Do They Have a FTL Defense?

Cheetah's Direct Strike

Can They Act Faster Than Cheetah?

Parasite's Powers

Can They Contain The Parasite In A Green Lantern Class Force Field?

Do They Carry S.H.I.E.L.D., S.W.O.R.D., M.S.C.U. or Star Labs Class Restraints as Standard Equipment?


Even If Fantomex Had Prep Time:

Deathstroke would walk right through his fake news and Terminate Him.

With his trusty -- sentient -- magic -- extra dimension -- active + passive eldrich energy weapon slash telepathic battle computer.

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But how would he know where to absorb from??

Fantomex was misdirecting a multiversal reality warper, iirc.

Power levels don't matter here....It's power set that's the problem.

Yes, Parasite can absorb surrounding energy in a giant AoE attack that likely kills his team mates as well.

But if he tries that (highly unlikely), the way it works is that he would only THINK he's draining psychic or whatever energy. But in reality he's just sitting there doing nothing. Fantomex is like the Black Mercy plant in DC. For all of Superman's powers, for example, once it's on you and you are being misdirected by it, nothing you say or do or sense is actually real.

Parasite would believe he's winning. That he's draining everyone and getting more powerful....But the misdirection means he's literally just sitting there.


I agree with you're argument, however I think the only threat is Cheetah can she take out Fantomex before he can do anything?


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Cheetah can solo

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I agree with you're argument, however I think the only threat is Cheetah can she take out Fantomex before he can do anything?


I honestly don't know. Because I don't know WHEN his misdirections work.....If they're like Longshot's powers , for example, which are always passively on when he's in danger, then arguably it doesn't matter.

For example. At what point did the misdirect happen here?

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Was it when Wolverine was mid leap? Mid slash? Just before? That's what I mean when I say I don't know.


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Or here. Wolverine is obviously killing their soldiers, so something is happening (was it actually him slashing, though? Nobody knows for certain):

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And that at SOME point, the misdirection occurs. But when and how long it took mid battle, I don't know:

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People are lowballing Fantomex when he's really that hax. He was has having a full on fight with Gambit on Attilan and the guards couldn't see anything.


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It took the Goat Faced Monk (who was a multiversal reality warper I think) bending reality just to undo his misdirection:

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But how would he know where to absorb from??

Fantomex was misdirecting a multiversal reality warper, iirc.

Power levels don't matter here....It's power set that's the problem.

Yes, Parasite can absorb surrounding energy in a giant AoE attack that likely kills his team mates as well.

But if he tries that (highly unlikely), the way it works is that he would only THINK he's draining psychic or whatever energy. But in reality he's just sitting there doing nothing. Fantomex is like the Black Mercy plant in DC. For all of Superman's powers, for example, once it's on you and you are being misdirected by it, nothing you say or do or sense is actually real.

Parasite would believe he's winning. That he's draining everyone and getting more powerful....But the misdirection means he's literally just sitting there.


Nah, parasite would absorb him first. You're assuming that fantomex would target him first.

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